Football Focus

[Otta]

Watch from 12:20, made me laugh.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/8-out-of-10-cats/4od#3438528

[Parkdrive]

If you'd asked me before yesterday evenings game if I'd take a draw I'd have said yes, but to throw away a 2 goal lead. And why did we sit back and just let them attack us especialy in the second half? I give up.

[????]

Mick will be unbearable

[????]

Well done Celtic

[maxxi]

Fine result and Mick should bask in it - and I think Wanyama's price just went up a couple of notches which will make his ultimate departure a little less painful.

[SCSB79]

Grrrr...well....grrr....done....grrrr....Celtic.

[Jah Lush]

And on the same night Barcelona 1 Spurs 4. Ok, Under 19s but still a great result for our youngsters.

[red devil]

Perfect night's viewing, watched the Celtic game and then caught the last 10 mins of Utd's game and a couple of goals.

Let's hope Mick gets back in one piece, the East End of Glasgow will be rocking tonight...

[Mick Mac]

Wake up Maggie I think I've got something to say to you..... Celtic 2 Barcelona 1 ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2229530/Rod-Stewart-bursts-tears-Celtics-historic-win-Barcelona.html

[Jah Lush]

Someone pinched his wallet.

[Mick Mac]

???? Wrote:

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> Mick will be unbearable

I have been good so far. Will move into overdrive at the weekend.

[red devil]

I thought you were just hungover Mick.

Is everyone doing a Maxxi this week, or just waiting until someone 'goes first'?

Anyway, here's the fixture list, don't forget the Everton game is this week's Coupon Buster...(s)he who dares

Arsenal v Fulham

Everton v Sunderland

Reading v Norwich

Southampton v Swansea

Stoke v QPR

Wigan v West Brom

Aston Villa v Man Utd

Man City v Tottenham

Newcastle v West Ham

Chelsea v Liverpool

[El Pibe]

Arsenal 2 Fulham 0

Everton 1 Sunderland 1

Reading 2 Norwich 1

Southampton 1 Swansea 1

Stoke 1 QPR 0

Wigan 0 West Brom 0

Aston Villa 1 Man Utd 3

Man City 1 Tottenham 2

Newcastle 1 West Ham 1

Chelsea 3 Liverpool 1

[Parkdrive]

Arsenal 2 Fulham 0

Everton 2 Sunderland 0

Reading 1 Norwich 2

Southampton 1 Swansea 2

Stoke 2 QPR 0

Wigan 2 West Brom 1

Aston Villa 0 Man Utd 3

Man City 2 Tottenham 0

Newcastle 3 West Ham 1

Chelsea 2 Liverpool 0

[????]

Aresenal 1 Fulham 1

Everton 2 Sunderland 0

Reading0 Norwich 1

Southampton 1 Swansea 2

Stoke 1 QPR 0

Wigan 1 West Brom 1

Aston Villa 0 Man U 2

Man city 2 Spurs 1

Newcastle 1 West Ham 1

Chelsea 2 Liverpool 1

[Ladygooner]

Arsenal 3 Fulham 0

Everton 1 Sunderland 0

Reading 2 Norwich 2

Southampton 0 Swansea 0

Stoke 2 QPR 0

Wigan 1 West Brom 2

Aston Villa 0 Man U 2

Man city 1 Spurs 2

Newcastle 2 West Ham 1

Chelsea 3 Liverpool 0

[Otta]

What are peoples thoughts on Peter Herbert and the Society of Black Lawyers deciding to turn attentions to Spurs and the Yid Army chants?

For me, I think this particular case is very different, it's historic, and it was said in defiance at abuse from other fans. I know that not everyone who chants it is Jewish, but it's part of the club's unique identity.

Peter Herbert is quite rightly using recent news stories to highlight certain things and make sure that things are dealt with by the law, but I think he's overreaching here to be honest.

[Otta]

Aresenal 3 Fulham 1

Everton 2 Sunderland 0

Reading 1 Norwich 1

Southampton 2 Swansea 2

Stoke 1 QPR 2

Wigan 1 West Brom 2

Aston Villa 1 Man U 2

Man city 3 Spurs 1

Newcastle 2 West Ham 1

Chelsea 2 Liverpool 1

[????]

Otta Wrote:

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> What are peoples thoughts on Peter Herbert and the

> Society of Black Lawyers deciding to turn

> attentions to Spurs and the Yid Army chants?

>

> For me, I think this particular case is very

> different, it's historic, and it was said in

> defiance at abuse from other fans. I know that not

> everyone who chants it is Jewish, but it's part of

> the club's unique identity.

>

> Peter Herbert is quite rightly using recent news

> stories to highlight certain things and make sure

> that things are dealt with by the law, but I think

> he's overreaching here to be honest.

I do think this is a case where you can genuienely say PC GONE MAD

[Otta]

Like

[Parkdrive]

Otta Wrote:

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> What are peoples thoughts on Peter Herbert and the

> Society of Black Lawyers deciding to turn

> attentions to Spurs and the Yid Army chants?

>

> For me, I think this particular case is very

> different, it's historic, and it was said in

> defiance at abuse from other fans. I know that not

> everyone who chants it is Jewish, but it's part of

> the club's unique identity.

>

> Peter Herbert is quite rightly using recent news

> stories to highlight certain things and make sure

> that things are dealt with by the law, but I think

> he's overreaching here to be honest.

He's got a point I have to say, if people were chanting the N word, would we be equally blas??

[Otta]

No I guess not, but you could argue that Spurs supporters chanting Yid Army (historically at least) is comparable to black guys calling each other the N word in a claiming it back kind of way.

[woodrot]

Spurs have turned the use of Yids as an insult on its head - is that a bad thing ? I see also Ajax adopted the same approach some years ago.

Surely it is down to the fans of the club what they want to call themselves?

I have no idea who Peter Herbert is ( apart from the ref. above) but he seems to be cropping up a great deal at the minute

[red devil]

The SoBL's zero tolerance policy is flawed because it ignores context. Spurs fans have used the Y word for a long time as a way of reclaiming the word back against anti-semitic chants. They are not using the Y word as an insult...

[Otta]

Exactly!

Peter Herbert would argue that Jewish people have complained about the chants, but I suspect these are non football supporters who don't really realise the contaxt in which it is being used.