Football Focus

[Bluerevolution]

Hello, City are back, City are back Hello, Hello. Sick Swan spotted at The Swamp on Sunday.

[Bluerevolution]

[Jah Lush]

Oh that's so last Sunday's news.

[Laddy Muck]

Actually, that's quite funny, BR - but it won't be half as funny as the slap I have in store for you when I see you next!>:D

[Bluerevolution]

::o Sick swan syndrome?

[StraferJack]

Looks like qpr's Ferdinand is making an official complaint. Game on. Now let's see what the fa do

[Alan Medic]

FA probably.

[Laddy Muck]

(tu) HA HA!

[Otta]

Terry saying he "welcomes" the investigation, and looks forward to clearing his name.

Perhaps a full investigation should be launched in to ALL suggestions of racism. It would help to get it out of the game, and it would clear names of anyone who was innocent, rather than having a cloud for ever hanging over them.

[StraferJack]

I'd love football to mike the refs up, like rugby. We would lean a lot, very quickly

[Atticus]

Yup, would Terry et al scream blue murder at refs in an attempt to intimidate them if they new their bile was made available to be broadcast, doubt it.

[maxxi]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> I'd love football to mike the refs up, like rugby.

> We would lean a lot, very quickly

This has been around a while - in fact Graham Kelly was advocating it over 8 years ago Independent Jan2003.

I think it would be entertaining (enlightening?) to train a wireless rifle mic on a player - like the camera in "Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait" - or 22 mics onto all the players so subscribers could flick from one to the other to see what any player was saying at any one time. You could hear every word said during the game - much like going to a Macclesfield home game.

[StraferJack]

God knows my opinion of the daily mail is as low as can be but

This article is shaming

And that last paragraph is disgraceful

[Jah Lush]

Hardly surprising coming from the Daily Heil but having read that I am seriously thinking of writing to the Press Complaints Commission. Absolutely bloody disgraceful.

[Otta]

Oh my bloody God, that is fucking unbelievable!

[Mick Mac]

Racism exists and it probably always will to some extent. Its a hate crime. Jon Terry needs to be properly tried in a law court, not a football associtaion diciplinary court, and assuming he is guilty, he needs to be banned for an appropriate period.

Then we move on until the next crime. But racism is not the biggest crime in the world. Each time it happens it does not need all the left wing liberals of the world crying foul as if its the worst thing that ever happened.

[Jah Lush]

Oi! You cunt! Who you calling a left wing liberal? Go bury your head in the sand you Daily Mail reading twat. You sound as bad the so-called journalist that wrote the article.

[Mick Mac]

:)

You do make me laugh Jah.

[maxxi]

This is the same Daily Mail Moron behind the constant rejuvenation of the "Winterval" myth, the "BBC Drops BC/AD" lie and many racist and anti-Muslim pieces... meet Steve Doughty

[Otta]

Each time it happens it does not need all the left wing liberals of the world crying foul as if its the worst thing that ever happened.

I don't know if I'm missing some hidden irony in there. I kind of hope so.

[DaveR]

I find the article extraordinary. 90% of it is fairly sensible and then the guy loses the plot. Racism in UK football has declined precisely because it is no longer tolerated by players, clubs and fans, so to argue that players should now tolerate it is plain stupid.

I think this is a bit over the top, though:

"Its a hate crime. Jon Terry needs to be properly tried in a law court, not a football associtaion diciplinary court, and assuming he is guilty, he needs to be banned for an appropriate period"

Something that isn't a crime on the street doesn't become one on a football field. IMHO a better analogy is racism in the workplace. In most places, being found to have racially abused someone at work would get you fired. Footballers on the field are doing their jobs, and the same standards should apply (although sliding tackles are not allowed in my office, so there'd have to be some allowances made).

[Otta]

90% of it is

fairly sensible and then the guy loses the

plot.

That is how I felt. I was reading, and wondering what the problem was, then I got to the end, and couldn't quite believe it.

[Mick Mac]

DaveR Wrote:

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> I think this is a bit over the top, though:

>

> "Its a hate crime. Jon Terry needs to be properly

> tried in a law court, not a football associtaion

> diciplinary court, and assuming he is guilty, he

> needs to be banned for an appropriate period"

>

> Something that isn't a crime on the street doesn't

> become one on a football field.

My research (albeit late at night after some wine) suggests it IS a crime to act on racism through actions or words.

If that is the case, that would apply on the steet or anywhere else for that matter.

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]"

[red devil]

Otta Wrote:

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> 90% of it is

> fairly sensible and then the guy loses the

> plot.

>

> That is how I felt. I was reading, and wondering

> what the problem was, then I got to the end, and

> couldn't quite believe it.

Me too, it's like one of those films which happily ambles along aimlessly, then WHAM!..I thought someone must have hacked into it and this morning it would be corrected...nope, it's still there...

[????]

I suspect it's a John Terry like gaff...manages to zip up all his prejudices and then suddenly THERE out they slip