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I wont be hanging around parliament waiting for a last second legal challenge/reprieve like families waiting on execution day in Alabama. With recent events suggesting we could be heading for a pretty hard Brexit what are others planning to do? Best to get out of Europe or face our future here with enthusiasm, trepidation or sorrow (or all three).


Please treat this as a bit of gallows humour. I'm not threatening to leave the UK as Lloyd Webber did in 97.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32590242/do-celebrities-leave-the-country-after-a-general-election-no---not-really

Face the future with enthusiasm.


Names and Faces change but life goes on and time will tell but just as no-one is indispensible in a Company ( though some think they are ) then things change and people adapt in life and I will , probably, be walking a small pack of dogs in the beautiful Footscray Meadows near Sidcup in all likelihood....


If not The Isle Of Wight or Lake Como :)

malumbu Wrote:

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> Thanks all for the advice. Farage drinks in some

> of my 'local' pubs in Victoria/Westminster so I

> will be avoiding them. With our new exciting

> relationship with China, the US and Russia there

> will be plenty of skiing opportunities outside of

> Europe.


And don't forget the oncoming nuclear winter Trump seems determined to cause, which will be like, the best, most widespread, like record-breaking winter ever, way better than any winter Obama ever managed.

Brilliant suggestion but an article here gives all the reasons not to go skiing in Iran - worryingly good snow, worryingly cheap, worryingly friendly. I sadly looked at Trumps twitter trumpets today and feel that this link would be a great one to add https://www.inthesnow.com/6-reasons-not-go-ski-holiday-iran/

Hmmm, I see that article is written by a man, so to add some balance (some of the things he didn't mention)... let's not forget worryingly segregated ski lifts (no mixing with your wife or girlfriend), worryingly alcohol free apr?s ski (and worryingly quiet - music and dancing both being prohibited) and worryingly unequal treatment of the men and women in your ski party (women are not permitted to ski unless accompanied by their father, brother or husband).


All good if that's not a problem for you. However, if you like the conventional apr?s ski beer, or your wife or girlfriend have a thing about being treated equally, you may want to factor those issues into your decision on destination.

Sounds rather traditional white Anglo Saxon culture to me. Isn't that what we voted for? And in our dystopian future this may come true (Handmaiden's tale). Whilst I hope to attract some humorous suggestions on places to go, there is separate discussion here on liberal freedoms,and how Trump and Trump's decision yesterday may put that back and bow perhaps our society acted in the past and no doubt some would like to return to those 'family values'.


PS looking at the recent bedding advert were a mixed race couple get up in the morning and plan to go to the bed shop. (a) even twenty years ago that would not have featured in an ad and (b) 50 years would have been illegal in some states in the USA.


I expect Iran is a fascinating place to visit and perhaps no worse in some respects than some of the Gulf states in terms of freedom - noting the human rights abuses in Qatar - anyone for football?

... oh, and maybe not the best skiing destination if you are gay!


Each to their own though - some people are not bothered by discrimination, or would have no difficulty in economically supporting it through tourism - being able to rationalise it as just a 'cultural' thing or by pointing out that there are other countries also in the dark ages from a social or human rights perspective.


Btw Malumbu, I'm not sure I understand your first two sentences. If you mean, didn't we vote for inequality between genders, discrimination against LGBT people, etc. the answer is 'no' (unless there has been some weird election I didn't notice was going on)!

malumbu Wrote:

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> Sounds rather traditional white Anglo Saxon

> culture to me. Isn't that what we voted for? And

> in our dystopian future this may come true

> (Handmaiden's tale).


This is ironical as you started a new thread on Quizzes and this book " The Handmaid's Tale" by Margeret Atwood was a question on the episode of The Chase I saw yesterday...

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