3rd degree burns to my jam pan

[maxxi]

katie1997 Wrote:

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> Please stop.

I refer the right honourable member to rule 19 1 i a)

[katie1997]

I didn't finish my previous post due to laughter. Did you say another rude word?

*refers self to maxxi's rule 19.1. etc*

[Loz]

maxxi Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > A good scrubber will have a sparkling jam pan.

> ...and you'll be able to see your face in it.

... and maybe even someone else's.

[maxxi]

Loz Wrote:

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> maxxi Wrote:

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> > Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > > A good scrubber will have a sparkling jam

> pan.

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> > ...and you'll be able to see your face in it.

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> ... and maybe even someone else's.

3's a crowd surely...

[Laddy Muck]

You lot are BAAAAD...

but you have me in stitches.

Well, the update is that I have been far too busy having a fun time that I have neglected to work further on said jam pan. I have yet to attempt RosieH's trick of scouring whilst simmering, BUT - given that I would much rather go to the pub than scrub tonight - I have decided to start again a la maxxi. I did manage to chip away at more of the black encrustation with lemon zester (sturdier than the now redundant frosting spatula), the remainder of which is proving more than a trifle stubborn. I reckon I've around 17% to go. Maxxi are you SURE I am not wasting my time here? Seems to me that Ariel has done as much as it is going to do :-S. If I were to simmer the concoction as per Ladygooner as I did in the beginning, would that now "cook" the remainder of burntness making the problem worse - or not?

I do appreciate your input, all of you.

Thanks.

[ianr]

If all else fails, I wonder what effect further heating, even blowtorch treatment, might have.

Has anyone yet said what this blessed object is made of? Lady M, perhaps you can install a jam pan webcam?

[Cazador55]

Perhaps is made of sugar and honey !

Jam pan webcam is not a bad idea for LM to install one; She can asked a lot of questions like Red Riding Hood

[maxxi]

LM - the bio powder solution (see what I did there?) works as the enzymes in the powder eat away at the burnt sugar but if seriously affected it may take time. Ladygooner's simmering may work if you remember not to leave the pan alone.

[Loz]

maxxi Wrote:

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> LM - the bio powder solution (see what I did there?) works as the enzymes in the powder eat

> away at the burnt sugar but if seriously affected it may take time. Ladygooner's simmering may work

> if you remember not to leave the pan alone.

Though I suspect most washing powder enzymes probably work best at about 40 degrees. Heating them to boiling point may render them useless.

[Laddy Muck]

@ ianr:

Judging by its weight and look, and the fact that previous attempts to clean by boiling vinegar/lemon juice have left no mark on said pan, I believe it is made of steel. As for webcam...sorry...I am too much of a technophobe. However, I may take a picture and get hubby to plonk it on here.

@ maxxi:

You are the epitome of unswerving patience and endurance. I think, due to the fresh batch of bio powder solution, I have tonight been able to chisel away at yet more of the black stuff. Must be down to the last 10% now: it's getting exciting! Apologies for doubting you earlier.

@ Loz:

An interesting point. But are you saying then, that when I wash my red-wine/curry/tomato-sauce etc. stained white linen tablecloth at 95 degrees, that it is not the enzymes that are responsible for the removal of the stain(s)?

[Loz]

Laddy Muck Wrote:

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> @ Loz:

> An interesting point. But are you saying then, that when I wash my red-wine/curry/tomato-sauce

> etc. stained white linen tablecloth at 95 degrees, that it is not the enzymes that are responsible

> for the removal of the stain(s)?

Probably not. Most bio washing powder enzymes work best at temperature of 30 to 60 degrees, and normal pH. Change the pH or heat them up too much and the enzymes denature - break down.

Washing powder effectiveness comes from two sources: the surfactants and the enzymes. In non-bio powder, you only have the surfactants. So, I'd suspect that at 95 degrees you would have probably killed off any enzymes and would be relying on the surfactant effect only (plus the effect of very hot water). Since biological washing powder contains less surfactants (as the enzymes are expected to do a lot of the work), you'd probably be better off with a non-bio at this temp.

[Laddy Muck]

Right! The moment some of you have been waiting for, LOL. Following further chiseling half an hour ago, this is how the pan now looks (it's pretty good considering the whole of the base was a very dense black). Big thumbs up for bio-powder-solution so far. Will it complete the job? Well, we shall see. However, before I place more of the solution into the pan, I thought I'd show you what has been achieved. Less than 5% to go, by my reckoning. Voila!

[Annette Curtain]

7/10

Must try harder.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KURvtz%2BNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

( though a little T-Cut would do the last remaining bits )

Nette:)

[Odyssey]

Nets are you serious?

[katie1997]

Yeah yeah, you have got to be joking LM!!!! Sorry but that pan looks like its just out of the shop. With a few black toast crumbs thrown in for good measure.

Either that or you've been doing a lot of scrubbing. Its practically pristine. (I am comparing it with one that I inherited that has probably been through two world wars though). But even so...

[Annette Curtain]

Odyssey Wrote:

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> Nets are you serious?

Yes I am

(tu)

[Laddy Muck]

Heh heh LLKVDPP...nope tis my jam pan for all to see! I've had it a few years, and yes, I do like to look after my things - hence why I panicked when it sustained 3 degree burns this time around. Am hoping that, by tomorrow, the inside will be as good as new (save for some scratch marks where I lost patience and used a paring knife to scrape...).

PS: where are you now? I am just leaving LOL!

*logs out*

[Laddy Muck]

Well I'm chuffed. After nearly 2 weeks of soaking/simmering in bio-power-solution, my jam pan is finally burn free. Chiseled off the remaining charcoal today.

It's bottom is a little scarred and scratched, but I reckon I won't get it much cleaner than this!

A big thanks to you all for your valuable contributions.

[Annette Curtain]

Laddy Muck Wrote:

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> It's bottom is a little scarred and scratched !

Oh dear:-S

That's where the trouble will be.

It might look bright and shiny now but come "the jammin"

* dong dong donggggggg *

" Sticker-oo time, all over again "

Nette:X

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Haha, AC as much as I'd love to hate your posts, sometimes I just love them! That was a lol-er!