More Dogs in Peckham Rye Park

[Earl Aelfheah]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Im an E-Dealer - Dealing on EBAY AMAZON Etc. Heard

> of E-Commerce and E-Mail ? that doesn't involve

> drugs either! Sorry Can't help you!

ooohhh, I thought you were a drug dealer who was concerned about flower beds.

[the-e-dealer]

Yes I can see the misunderstanding - Never Noticed it before. Bit Like when Apple had to drop the I-Touch for Children. The i-touchkids just wouldnt sell!.

[mynamehere]

I like you e-dealer. I hope you make squillions on your e-deals.

[the-e-dealer]

I like you too!

[the-e-dealer]

e-deals - what's that something to do with electricity?

[first mate]

e-dealer, I think you make a fair point. I too would like to see the park rules/requests adhered to to make life pleasant and fair for all park users, and to stop more grist for the anti-dog brigade's mill.

I also agree about other anti-social behaviour, to which you refer. I have not seen if you have already posted about these but no doubt you will soon do so, supplying photo evidence of people spitting in the street; widdling in public; throwing glass and food litter around etc.. etc..

[the-e-dealer]

Reported a Southwark Employee for peeing in the street only a few months ago! Someone has to do it! And A colleague reported a dustcart driver who threw out a butter packet as they drove along cleaning up! In both cases disciplinary action was taken.

[the-e-dealer]

I know its vile but is spitting in the street illegal?

[Renata Hamvas]

It appears some enforcement is needed re dogs in Peckham Rye Park. Will report

Renata

[the-e-dealer]

Go for it Renata you are my kind of Councillor!

[Renata Hamvas]

Glad to be of service!(tu)

Renata:)

[first mate]

Spitting, if not illegal perhaps it should be. Disgusting habit and think of all those germs.

Not sure if current ' No Dog' signs are illegal, strictly speaking, either. Nonetheless, if people don't start showing a little consideration around reasonable requests as to where they can walk their dog offlead, then hard and harsh Dog Control Orders will be implemented any time soon and tears will flow.

So, in part I'm with you on this, just so long as you are not singling dog owners out. As I've said before, I don't like canine feaces left on the streets for us all to skid in, but I get really cross about broken glass too, and few people seem so bothered by that. Broken glass is darn dangerous and can impart a very nasty infection.

[first mate]

Renata,

I will ferret around and try to find and post a picture of post-picnic detritus left on the Rye recently. Including empty cans and bottles, and various bits of congealed half-eaten food. Quite revolting. Then of course, there are the men, part of an organised football game on the Rye, that I have seen urinating in full view of the park public and children. Will you be pressing for enforcement on these kinds of behaviour too?

Many thanks.

[the-e-dealer]

First Mate I can't be everywhere but rest assured if I see Miscreants I will report them - I Also reported the lunatic who lit a fire in the fenced (No dogs off leads ) part of the park.

[first mate]

e-dealer,

I'm more concerned that the council is not singling out dog owners for special treatment. So I am interested in Renata's response to other, arguably more serious misdeeds, that have been witnessed on the Rye of late. The introduction of Park Wardens would be a neat way to deal with all the various problems, Dog Control Orders would deal with a tiny bit- yet,in my view, there seems to be a remarkably high level of enthusiasm by some on the council for Dog Control Orders.

[the-e-dealer]

I will keep an eye on her too!

[Renata Hamvas]

Hi First mate and the-e-dealer, I am not singling out dogs (or their owners!) but concerned with all anti-social actions/behaviour on the Rye and the Cemeteries in my Ward. I think that under the current economic circumstances we would be unlikely to have additional staff employed at the Rye. I would like to know if antisocial behaviour or dog problems are likely to be occuring on particular times of day, during the week or at the weekend. For example, the urinating footballers, is this a regular fixture???????

Renata

[first mate]

Renata,

I've seen public urination by Rye footballers on three occasions in the last year. I didn't take in the detail- as I am sure you will understand under the circumstances. It was the area to the left of the cafe on the Rye and not far from the children's play area.

Forgive me, but when you use a phrase like "antisocial behaviour or dog problems", it does sound as though you are singling out dog matters. Why not just refer to the whole lot as anti-social behaviour?

Walking the dog in the park is an important leisure,exercise and lifestyle choice for a great many responsible, borough tax payers and voters. While I agree that people need to be reminded that some areas of the park are better served by dogs remaining on leash, your use of the term 'enforcement' suggests a very different agenda and this is what worries many of us. Please try to focus on the issues that really matter, like muggings in the park etc.. rather than reacting with so much alacrity to an issue like a friendly family dog jumping over a park fence.

AS an aside, I do wish you at the council would put as much effort into getting people to keep their dogs on leash on the street, as you do to issues like the above. The street issue could make a great deal of difference all round and would really serve the public, in my view.

[Renata Hamvas]

Because this thread is titled more dogs in Peckham Rye Park!

[the-e-dealer]

What are you doing about the Debt Crisis?

[first mate]

Alright e-d, on current form, you of all people, should understand a little oTT'ness when one is trying to DRIVE a point home.

Renata, I'm sure you will take my comments on board. The public widdling is, I'd guess, a simple matter of laziness and manners and easily sorted. Dog walkers tend to talk to each other about behaviour that is bothering others, so I am sure word will get round about the fenced garden areas.

Scary people with status dogs are a whole different ball game and none of us like them or want them. As I have already said, a hard look at what can be done to make people keep their dogs leashed on the street would help in all kinds of ways. A lot of 'status dog' owners seem to have an aversion to leashing their dog on the street. Making them do so would ensure their dog is much more under control and the effort of leashing might even deter them from ownership, you never know.

[LadyDeliah]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Ok what about people who illegally park , Pee in

> the Street, Blow their horns at 4 am. All

> antisocial all breaking rules and NOT killing

> anyone. Not paying fares on trains no TV license?

> are they ok 'just having a bit of fun'? exempt'

> Which rules/ laws is it ok to break? I'd just like

> the Dog owners who think it IS ok to break laws to

> tell me which ones it is ok to break.

> I used to Like to Smoke with my Pint in the Pub -

> Can I do that? (Should I restart smoking!)

You must be such a joy to live with!

[bonniebird]

Hear hear firstmate. The majority of dog owners in PRP are law abiding people, I agree that people should not let there dogs run over flower beds, I walk in the park everyday and mostly people are good, you do see the odd one letting there dogs go where they shouldn't be, but on the whole its fine. I remember the days when we had park people in the hut and they would be in the park everyday, it felt safe knowing they were around and they were keeping an eye on things, we are lucky to see a warden nowadays, cutbacks.................

I reported a footballer urinating up a tree at the Colyton rd entrance, he was to the left on the entrance with his thing out in full view peeing up the tree, I reported him to the park manager with a full description, but as the team hadn't booked the pitch, they didn't know who was playing there and nothing could be done. They told me to call the police next time! Like I'm gonna do that!

[Marie81]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Id like to say Funnily enough - but I wont its not

> fully just found this - Dogs DO attack kids in

> Parks

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263932/Gi

> rl-4-attacked-police-dog-plays-park.html

> But I don't believe in banning dogs. But I'd like

> dog owners to show some respect for the park and

> other people by sticking to the rules - its not

> that hard is it?

> Maybe the Dog License should be brought back so

> there was some sort of sanction of anti social dog

> owners.

Yes and children DO attack dogs! The other day I saw a child run up to a ladies dog and whack it, she then preceeded to chase after my dog and attempted to kick him really hard (I had to grab hold of this child until the mother came over) I then saw her chasing after someone else's poor dog! I wish some parents would keep a better eye on their children in the park and not alow them to run up to any strange dog they see, then if they get nipped the dog is somehow the problem!

[Alan Medic]

This must be quote of the week don't you think?