Mystic Mog Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/212174Please would all you animal lovers sign this.Thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
flocker spotter Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 madness Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1256815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckham_ryu Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 If these online petitions had an option to register an objection to the motion proposed, I would firmly object to this one. We have theft laws. We have animal cruelty laws. If someone steals a dog, handles a stolen parrot, or causes distress to a stolen gerbil, they can be prosecuted right now without need for further legislation. This petition achieves nothing but a waste of valuable legislators' time. Please stop distracting our MP's with things that have zero chance of making any positive change in the world. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1256861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckham_ryu Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 MPs debated this petition in Westminster Hall yesterday. The highlights start 24 minutes in to this edition of Today in Parliament: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b85m2cSounded like a largely under-informed debate, with vague conclusions that sentencing guidelines might have already been reviewed to take emotional impact into account. General comments that there aren?t many prosecutions for pet theft in the first place. Bob Stewart MP made the interesting observation that there used to be an Act dealing explicitly with the stealing of dogs, passed in 1770, with severe penalties. It was repealed by the Theft Act 1968. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1259284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 This is the agenda in the Commons today:An urgent question on Govia Thameslink and rail electrification - 12.30An urgent question on the LBGT action plan - 1.15A statement from Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson providing a counter-Daesh update - 2pmA 10-minute rule motion on Pets (Theft) 2.45pmEstimates day debates (i) Department for Education (ii) Treasury spending on grants to the devolved institutions (iii) Main estimates 2018/19 - 3pm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1259293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Maybe a counter-petition that it is cruel to keep animals out of their natural environment, perhaps fine for food and working animals, but not for our own entertainment or as baby substitutes, and the harm that selective breeding causes. Discuss.Here's some earlier thoughts from our community https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/aug/01/should-we-stop-keeping-pets-why-more-and-more-ethicists-say-yes Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1259303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 How about an on-the-spot fine for anyone who takes their dog for a walk on pavement tarmac or concrete or put them in a car when the temperature's over 22 degrees? Due to the way dogs regulate their body heat it's horribly cruel and can even kill. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1259336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flocker spotter Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 it just keeps on giving Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/195777-pet-theft-petition/#findComment-1259347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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