Knox, pretty or guilty?

[Annette Curtain]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> > You do talk some b******ks some times.

What is that word. I thought bollocks but there's one asterisk too many, isn't there ?

Nette(?)

[mockney piers]

boondocks perhaps?

[camberwell70]

No, its definitely b*****ks.

[mockney piers]

I am curious as to which bit though.

That the press reporting of the case has been sensationalist, that our opinions are by and large influenced by our exposure to that reporting, or that the Knox issue of FHM will be sizzling?

Just for clarity like.

[Annette Curtain]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> boondocks perhaps?

Ballcocks

or

Bailhooks maybe ?

[Huguenot]

Unfortunately I didn't see any coverage, but I did hear some American female from the court house steps sounding forth on the verdict like she'd just liberated Tehran from the Socialists (deliberate conflation). It sounded like a good day to be American.

[dbboy]

sorry you didn't like the jokes, I hasten to add I did not write them, just swiped a link from the interweb hoping to lighten the mood, clearly failed.

[*Bob*]

We've already got Christopher Biggins, FHM and the Liberal Democrats.. no more levity required.

[maxxi]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> > You do talk some b******ks some times.

>

> Christ, it's taken you 11,000 posts to notice! I

> just like the introduction of doubt with 'some';

> very flattering and enough to get me off on a

> technicality I reckon ;-P

You can talk total bollocks some of the time

You can talk some bollocks all of the time

But nobody can talk as much bollocks as ______________*

*NewNexus/richardbach/AFN etc. - delete as appropriate or insert preferred name here.

[kellygirl]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadsheet.ie%2F2011%2F10%2F04%2Fmeanwhile-in-a-parallel-universe%2F&h=LAQDStoksAQArAVX00CFa0KpN8x8SpEKOl0RISeiI8QKUmA

what the mail wrote (and i believe erroneously published) in the event of a second guilty verdict. amazing stuff...

hope the link works

[Michael Palaeologus]

She seems to be guilty of being pretty, little else.

What is slowly coming out is a more objective assessment of the evidence against her (and the already forgotten ex-Boyfriend), there was little evidence, in fact, none. Any evidence was circumstantial that fitted a pattern, if you wanted her guilty. It also fitted other patterns, but that was ignored.

[kellygirl]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadsheet.ie%2F2011%2F10%2F04%2Fmeanwhile-in-a-parallel-universe%2F&h=ZAQD6NEbkAQCa_dn0PW9CMDgA3NF58vgF1bVdoVnWl1ULvQ

seriously. check this out.

[Moos]

Good to see the mood on the thread changing - the first few posts seemed to be convicting Knox on the grounds of being a saucepot (sexy female - stamp!) and an American (evil Westerner), which was bizarre.

The evidence against her was shaky to say the least. I agree very much with Simon M.

[legalbeagle]

Two people were acquitted yesterday. Two people now face an appeal. I will bet the last pound in my pocket that not one of you can find a front page photo just of Raffaelle Sollecito. A better example of profound sexism in the press in this country I have not seen in a long time.

Plus ca change, girls.

[*Bob*]

Poor Mockney.. Blame fatherhood and increasing years.

It won't be long before he's spitting at asylum seekers, hanging benefit thieves and seeing imaginary paedophiles in every bush.

[Jeremy]

legalbeagle Wrote:

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> I will bet the last pound in

> my pocket that not one of you can find a front

> page photo just of Raffaelle Sollecito.

You'd expect it from The Sun or Fox News... I was (probably naively) surprised the BBC/Guardian/Telegraph/etc have stooped so low.

[mockney piers]

>>"I will bet the last pound in my pocket that not one of you can find a front page photo just of Raffaelle Sollecito"

The new newcastle midfielder, i think you may have the wrong thread?

[Michael Palaeologus]

Sloppy policing at best. They developed an early theory and then twisted any evidence they could find to prove that theory.

They found a knife in the Boyfriend's draw that was covered in Knox's DNA ... ignoring the fact that there was no sign of the victim's DNA and she (poor soul) had her throat, ignoring the fact that the kinfe was used to prep veg by Knox so of course it had her DNA on it, ignoring the fact that it was a random knife pulled from a kitchen draw by the police with no clear link to the murder.

The video evidence of Knox and Boyfriend kissing and cuddling in an "inappropriate" manner. Really? I saw the video evidence on the news, it looked like 2 traumatised kids conforting each other, there was nothing erotic or inappropriate about it.

It was a terrible stitch up by the police and the media are, yet again, guilty of leaping on board the band-wagon without any proper analysis of fact.

[*Bob*]

If Raffaelle had kept his long 'eastern-euro diehard henchman' locks and 'creepy frameless spectacles' combo, he might have been in with a shot at the front cover.

Now he just looks like a plumber, out for a drink in Yates Wine Lodge.

[jumpinjackflash]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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>

> The video evidence of Knox and Boyfriend kissing

> and cuddling in an "inappropriate" manner. Really?

> I saw the video evidence on the news, it looked

> like 2 traumatised kids conforting each other,

> there was nothing erotic or inappropriate about

> it.

>

She was also filmed performing the splits and doing cartwheels..bit odd when your friend and flatmate has just had her throat slit wouldn't you think? She also lied about and tried to frame her former boss and bar owner Patrick Lumamba..who was subsequently released and is now (or has already sued) suing her for defamation. If you're really innocent why lie??

[camberwell70]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> I am curious as to which bit though.

> That the press reporting of the case has been

> sensationalist, that our opinions are by and large

> influenced by our exposure to that reporting, or

> that the Knox issue of FHM will be sizzling?

> Just for clarity like.

Ok, this bit...

I think we all end up going on gut feeling fed by

> the baser instincts of news mongers.

Bit of a generalisation that.

As for the Amanda Knox FHM issue, nothing surprises me but don't cancel your subscription ;-)

[*Bob*]

Is doing the splits and cartwheels illegal in Italy?

Amanda Knox. I find you guilty of doing the splits and cartwheels.. and 'acting funny' at other times, maybe, depending on which picture of the 6000 we took today looks the oddest and therefore gets published. You are hereby sentenced to twenty-six years in prison.

[mockney piers]

She was convicted of slander for that one.

Toi be vaguely sensible for a moment (boo hiss) I get Huggers' point that there may be something of the Barry George fantasist about her, but she's no simmpleton and her behaviour was a really weird reaction to having your mate so horribly killed in the room next to you.

I'm afraid I can't be as confidence as her defenders on here that it's all quite so clear cut, and it's that residual doubt which made me feel uneasy, particularly seeing how much the Kerchers were suffering and continue to lack closure on this. If iit's so obvious that the knife was a random one from a drawer then how were the jury not persuaded of reasonable doubt when it's so blindingly obvious to the more enlightened among us.

And apologies to those who thought i thought she was guilty becuase she's a bit saucy or that my flippancy was distasteful, I'll remember to put the tags around it all next time, just to make it clear like.

Fair point Camberwell, just me that isn't immune to the morass of specualtion and sensationalism in the press, luckily most people read court transcripts and nothing else ;-)

[jumpinjackflash]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Is doing the splits and cartwheels illegal in

> Italy?

>

> Amanda Knox. I find you guilty of doing the splits

> and cartwheels.. and 'acting funny' at other

> times, maybe, depending on which picture of the

> 6000 we took today looks the oddest and therefore

> gets published. You are hereby sentenced to

> twenty-six years in prison.

read the post properly..didn't say it was illegal but it's NOT sane behaviour when your pal has just been killed..in fact it's pretty disturbing and damn right insulting.

[*Bob*]

Slightly more disturbing is seeing two people getting convicted for murder, not as a result of any real evidence, but because they act 'a bit funny' - and (spurred on by the press, foaming at the mouth as ever) everyone buys into the fantasy, because the fantasy is more interesting than anything proven by the facts.