Fortnightly blue bin collection not enough?

[GrumpyGranny]

Sorry to disagree with Horsebox - I think it's the Council not the residents : My experience - the bin men just empty the blue bin ignoring the paper sacks and other stuff which is obviously for recycling (next to or on top of the blue bin) - am not sure it's the residents who are making things difficult. I have lived in Hackney (lively if chaotic) / Islington (lazy) / Camden (run like the Armed Forces)and we always sorted our own recycling (not mixed recycling which does not make sense to me) AND took it to the local bin place. Not this awful 3 ugly bin system Southwark has.

[Huggers]

did we get an answer on when the bin men will come after the strike? we are awash with rubbish and kitchen waste.

[venice]

we also waiting for wednesdays rubbish to be collected, recycling made worse by the fact that 2 weeks ago on our collection the bin men threw our 2 blue boxes and blue recycling bag in the bin lorry, went after the lorry and asked for the boxes to be returned he first said he didnt know where they were but then said they had slipped out of his hand.....said we should get a blue bin as the boxes were difficult for them to manage.

Reported the loss of the boxes and bag to southwark who said it would be up to 3 weeks to get replacements so front garden now full of carrier bags of recycling, not nice....

According to Southwark website it shuold be collected by tomorrow

Disruption to service

Please be aware that due to industrial action our refuse and recycling service has been severely affected.

If your bins are due for collection on Wednesday, please leave your bins ready for collection and we will clear the backlog as quickly as possible between Thursday and Saturday.

If your collections haven't taken place by Saturday evening, please report the missed collection online.

[sonla]

Morning All

Has anyone actually seen a dustcart this morning as we are also supposed to have our recycling taken today, but no sight or sound of them

Sonia

[The Minkey]

Green bins were collected this morning from SE15 3EH. Put the rest out in hope.

[Bellenden Jo]

Blue bins emptied this morning.

[The Minkey]

Brown bin also collected, blue bin looking forlorn ;-)

[sonla]

Yes they came , Blue and brown ones emptied !!

[Roulade]

In addition to handles, I was disappointed to find that the green bags don't fit the brown caddy properly. Why couldn't they supply bags you can use as liners, wrapped around the rim of the caddy. They'd be easier to use, and the extra height of the bag to allow you to wrap around the rim would then let you tie them up more easily, with more food in the bag.

At the moment, the bags only stretch about two thirds the way around the caddy (see attachments), and are prone to collapsing in, especially when you're first putting food into them. You should be able to scrape things off plates into the caddy without having to fiddle with the bags.

Walking around the streets of Southwark, I'm noticing all sorts of 'solutions' to the problems of small bags in people's front gardens - including lining the larger brown food bins with plastic carrier bags, or those huge clear bags supplied by the council for garden waste.

And if it's true that only the initial batch of bags are free, then you have to buy your own, god knows what countless homes will end up doing. At the very least, they'll start using non-biodegradable carrier bags again.

Oh, and as the caddies are intended to be used indoors, with the most likely location being the kitchen, did they have to be brown? Why not plain white or silver, to match appliances and other things you find in kitchens that are those colours.

[peterstorm1985]

Roulade Wrote:

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> Oh, and as the caddies are intended to be used

> indoors, with the most likely location being the

> kitchen, did they have to be brown? Why not plain

> white or silver, to match appliances and other

> things you find in kitchens that are those

> colours.

So agree. Brown - yuk. Sent the horrible caddy thing straight back. Fortunately we have a compost bin so everything except meat/fish/cheese goes in that. The empty bags live in the kitchen, but the moment anything goes in them it's straight out to the big brown bin outside. If only the first bags are free - which I can't believe would be workable - then the odd (very small, due to the compost bin) plastic bag will end up in the general rubbish.

[Mrs TP]

The whole pilot business seems to be aimed at the council and whether or not things work for them and/or need tweaking not for us residents as users of the various services.

The bags without handles are a pain, splitting or ripping if you try and stretch them over the mouth of the kitchen cadi or when you tie them up.

Can't quite believe my original post has generated all this discussion but also glad not just us producing so much recycling and struggling with those silly food bags.

[joom]

just an observation... that made me laugh out loud

[Sue]

Roulade Wrote:

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> In addition to handles, I was disappointed to find

> that the green bags don't fit the brown caddy

> properly. Why couldn't they supply bags you can

> use as liners, wrapped around the rim of the

> caddy.

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My green bags fit my brown kitchen caddy quite easily, with plenty of liner to wrap round the rim.

Are you sure you're not using the small brown "outside" bin as your kitchen caddy, by mistake?

[puzzled]

we absolutely do need a weekly blue bin collection. also, they have failed to empty our brown bin for 3 weeks. we have very little food type waste as we compost, but they really should not ignore us like this. if james barber is reading this, he could bollock them for us.

[joom]

I forgot to put out my recycling this week - now have two weeks to wait for mountain to be collected!

[Mrs TP]

We breathe out when any bin is collected and immediately fill it with all that being stored in the house - recycling, food waste or green bin stuff - this is more than half full within 3 days of being collected.

David Cameron promised a re-introduction of weekly bin collection - bollocks like the rest of his crap ... and James Barber when are you going to respond to the separate email I sent you re getting a pitch on Northcross Road Market? You are prominent on here but not so quick at responding to your emails.

[Sue]

Mrs TP Wrote:

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>and James Barber when are you going to

> respond to the separate email I sent you re

> getting a pitch on Northcross Road Market? You are

> prominent on here but not so quick at responding

> to your emails.

xxxxxx

That's very unfair.

James has always responded very quickly to my emails, despite I'm sure being extremely busy.

How do you know he isn't waiting for some information before responding to you?

I think it's extremely praiseworthy the trouble that James goes to to help residents in this area, and he deserves to be commended for it, not slagged off in public.

[ktbg]

A couple of months ago I emailed Southwark to complain about the green bags no longer having handles, as the first trial batch did. I mentioned that they'd end up needing to supply more bags as you could only half fill them to be able to tie them up properly. They called me back the next day to explain that they had done a survey and people had said they didn't use the handles (whatever that means), so they had gone to cheaper ones without handles. I was at work so didn't discuss it any further.

[the-e-dealer]

If Mrs TP isn't happy with James Barber's Lack of response I see no reason why she shouldn't say it. Free Country. or shall we all be arrested and thrown in Jail for daring to Criticise our political elite we just bombed Gadaffi out for doing the same. Its not as if he doesn't get paid for it.

[James Barber]

Hi ktbg,

I was told they stopped providing bags with handles to save money.

Cuncil officials agreed an experiment with tow of the Friern Road blocks having bags with handles and two without and then to compare the results in terms of number of bags used and amount recycled. I've yet to receive the results and the trial was meant to have started many many months ago.

Personally, not having handles REALLY puts me of off food waste collections. I do it but as you say the bags are much less full and balacning a bag while trying to tie knots in the bag is a problem for me.

Mrs TP,

I'm sorry I've not obtained a reply from officers yet and I should have told you it was taking time. Sorry.

[ema]

I always use 2 large crates as well as my blue bin (after squidging it down to ensure max usage) for our recycling before the 2 week collection. Could do with 2 blue bins really...

I would love love love to have food waste bags with handles so I can fill the bags right up and then still be able to tie them up without spilling "food stuff"!

[joom]

I am about to change to a local fruit and vegetable delivery service, so much of my recycling is supermarket packaging

[TheStreets]

We take our excess recycling to Sainsbury's when we do our shopping :)

[Loz]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> If Mrs TP isn't happy with James Barber's Lack of

> response I see no reason why she shouldn't say it.

> Free Country.

And if Sue is not happy with Mrs TP's criticism of James Barber, then there is no reason why she shouldn't say it. Free country...

> Its not as if he doesn't get paid for it.

Do councillors get paid?

[the-e-dealer]

ofcourse they do James Barber Last Year ?24,515.64 and why not?they make sacrifices in Family life and their careers.