Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Chick Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Wasn't Adolf a veggie? And Tony Blackburn?


If that's not confirmation that it's the devil's work I don't know what is! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-033.gif

Harp harp harp goodness me H I should hire you as the DVVS Press Officer!

I would love to meet you, will you be at the meeting on 10th?

DVVS "self help group for those with a hatred of humans" now that's a quote for the website!

(Ps. Hitler wasn't a veggie, his doctor encouraged it for his health but H just didn't have the staying power)

Thomas Micklewright Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Thanks for the lovely picture curtain, do they

> stun them at that farm?

> 'Welfare conscience' doesn't sit comfortably with

> 'death/slaughtered'. But then Doctor H has

> diagnosed me as ill so that explains it. Harp

> harp.


Hey Thomas

I personally have no issue with your starting these threads on the forum. I think Annette also showed enough interest to share his philosophy of meat-eating, pity you chose not to engage but I'll have another try. Do you really not see an ethical difference between organically raised and humanely slaughtered animals for meat and for example battery farming? Does it come under a single category: "slaughtered"? If so, why ask about Kosher/Halal, by the way? Would it be better, for example, than gettig old and starving to death, or being killed by predators?

Look forward to your thoughts

I'm a meat eater, by the way, but a choosy one.

Hey moos,

Sorry I didn't engage. Yes I think choosing locally sourced meat from free range organic small holdings is much better than buying meat from Morleys for example.

However I feel consumers of meat often use the phrase 'high welfare' to excuse the fact that they are growing a life just to be killed and its flesh eaten.

Tom

"However I feel consumers of meat often use the phrase 'high welfare' to excuse the fact that they are growing a life just to be killed and its flesh eaten"


I never use the phrase 'high welfare'.


I prefer the phrase:


"I'll have the ribeye. Medium-rare".

Loz Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Thomas Micklewright Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > (Ps. Hitler wasn't a veggie, his doctor

> encouraged

> > it for his health but H just didn't have the

> staying power)

>

> But he was a fascist, so that's close...


Brilliant, Loz.

Thomas, I have no particular Hitler axe to grind, and I'm sure you know that people only wheel out the f?hrer in any argument about vegetarianism to get a rise out of veggies. Nevertheless, I feel obliged to point out that your link to a wacky-wackster website (breast cancer is caused by a "life force stagnation", REALLY???) links through to only one source.


Have a look at all the sources on Wikipedia*, for there are many. Most suggesting that he was vegetarian, only a couple suggesting that he was not. So while we may never know the definitive truth, your absolute certainty seems wildly misplaced.



*and I make no bold claims for Wikipedia, however, in this instance, the article cites many sources

david_carnell Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Seriously.....Tom......sod off. This is getting

> tedious now.


It is the responses that are tedious. If people think these threads are tiresome, why keep them alive by responding?

I agree with some of T's points but not all of them - yet the vilification that he is subjected to on these boards, seems....bizarre.

OK I've had several glasses of red, but I just want to say, if people didn't eat meat, then there would be very few

cows, sheep, pigs or hens in the countryside, if any. At least they have a life, even if a fairly short one.


And I personally think battery farming is a load more cruel than animals getting their throats slit.


I used to live on an organic farm. Strange as it may seem, the farmers really cared for their animals, and their welfare, even though they were going off to be slaughtered at the end of the day.


I was a vegetarian once. Now I'm not. But I would never knowingly eat animals who had spent their lives in a cruel environment.

Thomas Micklewright Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Give what a rest? Championing the environment

> over human greed? Your grand kids will thank me

> for it!



Thomas


You're not a bwwrilliant Rik Mayall impersonator are you, by any chance ?





NETTE:-S

Sue Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> OK I've had several glasses of red, but I just

> want to say, if people didn't eat meat, then there

> would be very few

> cows, sheep, pigs or hens in the countryside, if

> any. At least they have a life, even if a fairly

> short one.

>

> And I personally think battery farming is a load

> more cruel than animals getting their throats

> slit.

>

> I used to live on an organic farm. Strange as it

> may seem, the farmers really cared for their

> animals, and their welfare, even though they were

> going off to be slaughtered at the end of the

> day.

>

> I was a vegetarian once. Now I'm not. But I would

> never knowingly eat animals who had spent their

> lives in a cruel environment.


Well shhh*hic*-aid Sueee.


:)-D

"Championing the environment over human greed"


That's not what you're doing Tom. You're being endlessly disingenuous and frankly very dull, which is putting me off my sausages - a crime against humanity in my book.


Why don't you go and start a thread about something unconnected with eating/not eating meat and prove that you're not just a single issue pillock?

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Messaging, messaging, messaging. That's all it boils down to. There are only so many fiscal policies out there, and they're there for the taking, no matter which party you're in. I hate to say it, but Farage gets it right every time. Even when Reform reneges on fiscal policy, it does it with enough confidence and candidness that no one is wringing their hands. Instead, they're quietly admired for their pragmatism. Strangely, it's exactly the same as Labour has done, with its manifesto reverse on income tax, but it's going to bomb.  Blaming the Tories / Brexit / Covid / Putin ... none of it washes with the public anymore  - it wants to be sold a vision of the future, not reminded of the disasters of the past. Labour put itself on the back foot with its 'the tories fucked it all up' stance right at the beginning of its tenure.  All Lammy had to do (as with Reeves and Raynor etc) was say 'mea culpa. We've made a mistake, we'll fix it. Sorry guys, we're on it'. But instead it's 'nothing to see here / it's someone else's fault / I was buying a suit / hadn't been briefed yet'.  And, of course, the press smells blood, which never helps. 
    • Niko 07818 607 583 has been doing jobs for us for several years, he is reliable, always there for us, highly recommended! 
    • I am keeping my fingers crossed the next few days are not so loud. I honestly think it is the private, back garden displays that are most problematic as, in general, there is no way of knowing when and where they might happen. For those letting off a few bangers in the garden I get it is tempting to think what's the harm in a few minutes of 'fun', but it is the absolute randomness of sudden bangs that can do irreparable damage to people and animals. With organised events that are well advertised there is some forewarning at least, and the hope is that organisers of such events can be persuaded to adopt and make a virtue of using only low noise displays in future.
    • There was an excellent discussion on Newscast last night between the BBC Political Editor, the director of the IFS and the director of More In Common - all highly intelligent people with no party political agenda and far more across their briefs than any minister I've seen in years. The consensus was that Labour are so unpopular and untrusted by the electorate already, as are the Conservatives, that breaking the manifesto pledge on income tax wouldn't drive their approval ratings any lower, so they should, and I quote, 'Roll The Dice', hope for the best and see where we are in a couple of years time. As a strategy, i don't know whether I find that quite worrying or just an honest appraisal of what most governments actually do in practice.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...