Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I mentioned in my introductionary thread that I'd be typing some observations/comments on the subject of political correctness. Sorry for the delay.A trend stretching back over the last decade has overseen the distortion through media (mainly audio-visual) of what's a fact, and how you can alter or omit some of the fundamental aspects of that fact in order to appeal (and appease) to the broadest audience possible. Now, some will understandably argue that such a tactic makes perfect economic sense: more bums in seats, crosses boundries, future production potential, etc. But should we continue to sacrifice facts that may not appeal to everyone, but are usually undeniable facts (or in some cases of regional fiction or culture: valid assumptions) regardless, to attract a wider audience?Many of these recurring distortions are broadcasted or circulated by various media outlets and often manifest themselves (among others) in modern renditions of historical and cultural events i.e - Robin Hood. A 2006 release made by Tiger Aspect Productions for the BBC, the legend of Robin Hood, is a recent-ish case in point. Picture Friar Tuck. Most online results deliver the consensus expectation of those familiar with the character. What made the aforementioned production controversial, to a degree, was that the actor cast to play Friar Tuck is black, as opposed to the classical depiction: a white man. As good an actor as David Harewood is, his casting as Tuck was a contradiction of what's widely acknowledged/expected. This is a clear example of the more obvious axioms of political correctness (alongside intimidation): overall, positive appeal. But where does it stop? If we found ourselves somewhere in the future where actors cast to play slaves in the Transatlantic Slave Trade were white, would black people take offense at such a contradiction that's designed to appeal (and appease) to the widest possible audience, regardless of what the facts are? I'm guessing they would. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I remember the huge outcry across britain when that Robin Hood was broadcast.. oh no wait. there wasn't oneBack and trolling as ever Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Character in folk legend / Thousands and thousands of people being kidnapped from their homes and forced to work as slaves.Come on BBW, you can do better than that! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 How many pasty-white Anglo-Saxons have played the role of Jesus throughout the years, when he should be of middle-eastern appearance.Ditto for Othello, who was Moorish. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheedge Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Inconsequential I think the more that ignore the better Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 edit: not worth it Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Nigel_Farage.jpg/220px-Nigel_Farage.jpg "Anyone got a Cross-Bow" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahSE22 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Consequential Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I mentioned in my introductionary thread that I'd> be typing some observations/comments on the> subject of political correctness. Sorry for the> delay.> > A trend stretching back over the last decade has> overseen the distortion through media (mainly> audio-visual) of what's a fact, and how you can> alter or omit some of the fundamental aspects of> that fact in order to appeal (and appease) to the> broadest audience possible. Now, some will> understandably argue that such a tactic makes> perfect economic sense: more bums in seats,> crosses boundries, future production potential,> etc. But should we continue to sacrifice facts> that may not appeal to everyone, but are usually> undeniable facts (or in some cases of regional> fiction or culture: valid assumptions) regardless,> to attract a wider audience?> > Many of these recurring distortions are> broadcasted or circulated by various media outlets> and often manifest themselves (among others) in> modern renditions of historical and cultural> events i.e - Robin Hood. A 2006 release made by> Tiger Aspect Productions for the BBC, the legend> of Robin Hood, is a recent-ish case in point.> Picture Friar Tuck. Most online results deliver> the consensus expectation of those familiar with> the character. What made the aforementioned> production controversial, to a degree, was that> the actor cast to play Friar Tuck is black, as> opposed to the classical depiction: a white man.> As good an actor as David Harewood is, his casting> as Tuck was a contradiction of what's widely> acknowledged/expected. This is a clear example of> the more obvious axioms of political correctness> (alongside intimidation): overall, positive> appeal. But where does it stop? If we found> ourselves somewhere in the future where actors> cast to play slaves in the Transatlantic Slave> Trade were white, would black people take offense> at such a contradiction that's designed to appeal> (and appease) to the widest possible audience,> regardless of what the facts are? > > I'm guessing they would.Some people have the ability to understand other peoples comments and for me specially it hasbeen very clear and I could not argued with that, If I say I didn't because it has taken a lot of time to make sure whatI read on newspapers was right, not to give the wrong opinion to the editor. Perhaps some people work harder to swerve the subject but for some of us has been very clear. So to clarify my concept I would like to highlight that there isn't any ghosts in the town if not the information was given by it's own newspapers. Like for example the Daily MailIf I have to discuss about the Daily Mail it will take me hours and hours is being a while since.I will have to go through all my papers and at the moment Idon't have time and some people may disagree and I would never finished writting it. Here is one (STRIKE)the police etc. I would like to leave all the comments to the editor because they know what I am talking about.Was a good exercise for us all and so be more carefulwhen dealing with other issues like the inoffensive children in the poor areas who get punish by their own parents etc. Some kids will just let go but bear in mind it will happen one day, some were, somebody.The police and politicians was there to warn parents that some policies need it to be change for the near future for the safety of some childrens ! Predictions what can happen in the future no one knows.I can go now as my job is done and hope everything is clear.I can only congratulate myself for the job I did in helping the Daily Mailbut they never notice the job I did and I never got pay for that because I was very profession. I must say they did a wonderful job for me too so I can't complain.Thanks guys, all the best to all of you.Now I am happy to go as I don't have nothing else to dowas a good game with hamster in future becareful with the broken glasses he,he,henobody would commint to a such a thing not even in 100 years.If I meet my girlfriend I will encourage her to join as nothing has happen here. Was only a class. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Yawn. I'd advise returning to the Daily Mail. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 If you're emotionally affected by or ill-equipped to debate the OP then don't bother replying and leave it for those want to. @Otta. I can understand that some people may take exception to the comparison, but it's still valid, nonetheless.@Loz. You raise a valid point. However, as far as I'm aware, there's no visual/written reference to depict Christ. And like with many things of that nature, his followers and enemies alike will have embodied him in their own image. Let's not forget that much of the early, mainstream writings from when Christ was alive were written by his Roman detractors. The image prevailed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Yup. You are right Inqy. It reminds me of the absurdity of David Tennant, fine actor although he is, playing Hamlet....and not a Danish bone in him! What a bowing to 'modern ways'.Bore off you tedious old troll Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 @????. Crying troll instead of constructively engaging a controversial topic is the hallmark of the ignorant and narrow-minded. Step off and let those who want to engage it in a civil tone without negative aspersions and attacks on their character being levelled at them.You're behaving like a child. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanMcPR Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 ontheedge Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Inconsequential I think the more that ignore the> betterThe more you ignore the better are you refering what happen in February to the ED residents.I think all of us we have enough information until now to blame the politicians but nothingto worry about they will be on your side. After all the research provided on this Forum was a good job and a good effort and hopefully this will be the end as we are not allowin real life this kind of researchs about other people private life. Hope nobody will be annoy with my comments and this will be a lesson for some not to tell others in the future I love you when you want just something else.It was there where I wanted to get with my research and I am glad I did it :))and just on time and when this happenthe dog run away. I could write a book but was a sad ending at the end :( Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 So should David Tennant have taken on the role of a Danish prince by your 'logic'? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 @????. Why not? He's European. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 So's David Harewood you racist numbnuts, he was born and bought up in Birmingham. Go away, you are either an idiot a troll or a racist. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahSE22 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Yes, definitely Yes very different. You can have a good fish if you are hungry as this is the only thing you want easy catch, go for eat :)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 @Otta. I can understand that some peoplemay take exception to the comparison, butit's still valid, nonetheless. It's really not. Anyway, I'm off. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 @????. Although Mr. Harewood was born in Birmingham, according to the profiling on the UK consensus, he's not European. I'm neither a troll or a racist. I've submitted what I consider to be a worthy topic of debate, which isn't racist. The official definition of racism is as follows: "1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races."My OP reflects none of those conditions. Crys or suggestions of racism is another hallmark of the ignorant and narrow-minded who fall back on the accusation because they're unable to refute the argument by any other means. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JahSE22 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> @Otta. I can understand that some people> may take exception to the comparison, but> it's still valid, nonetheless. > > It's really not. > > Anyway, I'm off.Of course not there are some Europeans who are married and ....I have done some work for their parents. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 @Otta. Leaving a statement unsubstantiated followed by abandoning the thread on which you've submitted it leaves it largely invalid and unworthy of consideration. Are you always this reluctant to constructively engage in debates you've shown an interest in, despite the topic? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Consequential Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> @????. Although Mr. Harewood was born in> Birmingham, according to the profiling on the UK> consensus, he's not European. I'm neither a troll> or a racist. I've submitted what I consider to be> a worthy topic of debate, which isn't racist. The> official definition of racism is as follows: "1. a> belief or doctrine that inherent differences among> the various human races determine cultural or> individual achievement, usually involving the idea> that one's own race is superior and has the right> to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government,> etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine;> discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of> another race or other races."> > My OP reflects none of those conditions. Crys or> suggestions of racism is another hallmark of the> ignorant and narrow-minded who fall back on the> accusation because they're unable to refute the> argument by any other means.I presume you mean the census rather than 'cosensus', and I'm pretty sure that the 'census' does not include 'European' as an option on ethnic background, rather you are thinking any 'non-white' is not european, because that's your pathetic prejudice (hint this is IN YOUR HEAD NOT ON THE FORM IGNORAMUS)...or your just trollimgIt's just boring arguing with idiots like you anywaySeriously Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consequential Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 @????. You're quite right. It is indeed 'cencus'. But black people living or born in Europe are not Europeans, no matter how you spell or misspell 'cencus'. And it's 'you're', not "your" if we're going to be pedantic. In any case, you're just butthurt because your accusation of racism was completely and publically tossed out. I bet you weren't expecting that.It's truly tedious arguing with ignorant, petty fools like you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 But black people living or born inEurope are not Europeans, If you are not trolling, then you are at least a total moron.I suspect you're both. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 er, census...is how I spelt it, go and look'Your pathethic prejuidice' is infact your not you're....so even your pedantry exposes you as an idiot. Seriously, do one. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20688-when-political-correctness-becomes-offensive/#findComment-503168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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