woodrot Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 there no getting away from is there ? constant news streams, death and dismemberment, bombs, carnage and guilt halfway across the world. The waste of life on both sides is sickening.Its always the ill educated unwashed squaddies who get it, whilst the officer class enjoy lazy afternoons back at the ranch, pausing only to order another patrol, another assualt, another slaughter.If it were British cats that were being despatched to Afghanistan to slaughter Afghan cats, then there would be riots on the streets of EDis it time for the troops to take affirmitive action,put down their weapons and put their officers on trial for their crimes against humanity.discuss/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Woodrot - you have clearly spent very little time researching today's military services. Your caricature might, just, have held up in Wellington's army 200 years ago but not today. Your post reeks of inverted snobbery and ill educated socialist worker thinking.Discuss. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 I dont see the headlines full of reports of officers being maimed or killed. Usually just kids from the North. funny that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 WoodrotYou clearly did not watch the recent weekly documentary which gave a lot of information about those who had died- they were all ranks from all over Britain. It was a humbling program how much their colleagues respected them and how they often died trying to save their colleagues. Officers included. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 You don't read much then. And in the First World War proportionally frontline officers (who were by and large Public Schoolboys - until they started running out of them) were the most likely to be killed.I'm with MM. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Snorky's home for Christmas. Discuss. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstorm1985 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I dont see the headlines full of reports of> officers being maimed or killed. Usually just kids> from the North. funny that.It may be the papers you read and what the journalists wish to write about - it certainly isn't a true reflection of reality. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 WOODROT Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 How can the officer class sleep at night, knowing they send ill educated young men & women to their deaths & never question those orders ?Stiff upper lip and all that of course. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 snorksy ^ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Are you suggesting they use some sort of bust enduced sedative? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I've often wondered if there is a problem persuading intelligent RAF pilots to drop bombs. If not, why not? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I've often wondered if there is a problem persuading intelligent RAF pilots to drop bombs. If not, why not?Perhaps they are intelligent enough to see the wider strayegic picture? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acm Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 woodrot.Sir, your ignorance know no bounds, and there would a lot of service personnel, both serving and retired who would get very pissed off at the frankly moronic and deeply disrespectful statement you have just made. Including me.Sapper Elijah Bond, from 35 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers, aged 24 from St Austell - 08/12/11Rifleman Sheldon Lee Jordan Steel, 5th Battalion The Rifles, aged 20 from Leeds - 27/11/11Private Thomas Christopher Lake, 1st Battalion The Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, aged 29 from Watford - 20/11/11Lieutenant David Boyce, 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards, aged 25 from Welwyn Garden City, Herts - 17/11/11Lance Corporal Richard Scanlon, 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards, aged 31 from Rhymney, Gwent - 17/11/11Those are the last five casualties in Afghanistan.It would be decent of you to perhaps recognise the whole and absolute inaccuracy of this thread, the fact that you obviously have no experience as to the make-up or tasking of the Armed Forces of today, be a man and apologise.I suspect you won't though. Mainly because you are an ill-informed twat.acm - an "ill-educated" ex-soldier. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Perhaps MM but smart bombs aren't really smart are they? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> How can the officer class sleep at night, knowing> they send ill educated young men & women to their> deaths & never question those orders ?> > Stiff upper lip and all that of course.I slept very well, knowing I had some of the best motivated, most highly trained young men and women in the world around me.As for questioning orders, it happens all the time, especially in the fluid situations when you find yourself in combat.I can recall literally dozens of times I asked for clarification on orders given to me and deciding how the situation on the ground dictated I interpret them to best effect, it's what I got paid for.The care and safety of those under our command is the paramount concern of any officer in the armed forces and it is a duty not taken lightly in any respect whatsoever.Hope you have a great Christmas! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (tu) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 womanofdulwich Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> (tu)Seconded. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20930-troops-home-for-xmas/#findComment-507571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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