A dark day - The CPT (Lounged)

[Sue]

Otta Wrote:

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> And I don't agree re the Uplands, I think the

> Actress is a vast improvement. I live round the

> corner, and I didn't like the vibe in the Uplands

> at all, whereas I like the Actress.

>

> You're missing my point Sue, The Actress is

> undoubtedly a vast improvement.

>

> The Uplands pre 2002 was a traditional pub

> building. It was a dive, but a nice building.

>

> It was then completely gutted, and remained a

> dive, but one that felt like a cinema foyer. The

> nice bits of the building could not be replaced.

>

> The Actress is NOT a dive (although not really my

> bag), and is miles better than The Uplands, buit

> the gutting of the building in 2002 can not be

> undone, so the nice stuff about it is lost

> forever. That is all I am trying to say, I thought

> it was pretty clear.

xxxxxxx

Sorry, I skimmed through the posts in a hurry and probably didn't read them properly :-$

[Jah Lush]

That'll learn yer Sue.

[Crystal Palace Taver]

The 'N' is missing as the Forum wouldnt allow a name this long...

Is it a big issue for you all???

[karter]

Crystal Palace Taver Wrote:

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> The 'N' is missing as the Forum wouldnt allow a

> name this long...

>

> Is it a big issue for you all???

We luv your pub and hope you will have a good menu and that it will be child friendly. Good luck.

[Jah Lush]

Free chicken wings last night whilst watching the football. A little undercooked if I may say so but again, nice touch. You always get nice friendly service at the CPT. Keep up the good work.

[Sue]

Anyone know what the outcome of Hoopers license review today was?

Sorry, I know it's off topic but it was discussed on this thread and I don't want to start a new thread just to ask that :-$

[Mick Mac]

Crystal Palace Taver Wrote:

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> The 'N' is missing as the Forum wouldnt allow a

> name this long...

>

> Is it a big issue for you all???

Personally I'm finding it hard to cope wit

[DulwichFox]

If The Crystal Palace Tavern can be changed to The Crystal Palace Taver.

Could the The C.P.T. become The C.P. or The C.

What about The Crystal... ??? Naahh.

The Old Stoat and Pineapple..

Fox

[Jah Lush]

Some regulars call it The Crystal others The Seepy Tea.

[Sue]

Sue Wrote:

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> Anyone know what the outcome of Hoopers license

> review today was?

>

> Sorry, I know it's off topic but it was discussed

> on this thread and I don't want to start a new

> thread just to ask that :-$

xxxxxxxxx

That'll be a No then?

:))

ETA: I've emailed Jamie to find out ....

[CameronMac]

Hi Sue,

Notice of Decision attached.

Cameron MacLean (representing Jamie Hooper at the Review)

[Sue]

Hi CameronMac

I just got that email too and was about to post the same thing - thanks!

Bit of a mixed decision I think as the views of the minority seem to have taken precedence over the views of the majority.

But better than it might have been I suppose.

Is either side appealing, do you know?

[El Pibe]

A great british compromise, not ideal but neither especially unreasonable.

[CameronMac]

Hi Sue,

I think it is unlikely that Jamie Hooper will want to appeal the decision. However, he has 21 days to make a decision on this. I don't know if the applicant intends to appeal.

The decision by the sub committee was a compromise that I doubt has left either party terribly satisfied. I know Jamie Hooper is willing to talk with those residents who supported the review with a view to making the compromise work.

The biggest difficulty Jamie faces is if anyone goes out of the unlocked fire doors (Malfort Road and Ivanhoe Road entrances to the pub) after 11.00pm for a cigarette and/or to drink, that puts Jamie in breach of his licence conditions. The difficulty of enforcing this type of condition was pointed out to the Sub Committee in the presentations, but they do not seem to have taken that on board in their deliberations. Jamie will have to rely on appropriate signage and the good will of customers not to use the outside areas after 11.00pm.

[Sue]

Thank God I don't smoke any more - where are smokers supposed to go after 11pm?

Or is Jamie going to issue them all with gags so that they smoke in complete silence? The mind boggles ....

[Jah Lush]

It's hard to smoke with a gag in your mouth Sue. :)) The people who complained about Hoopers are complete and utter cunts as far as I am concerned.

[Sue]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> It's hard to smoke with a gag in your mouth Sue.

> :))

xxxxxxx

Oh yeh, duh :-$

And yes I agree re the people who complained (less than a handful, stirred up by one vindictive person). Move near a pub and then complain when it goes about its business. C****.

[bob]

What Jah and Sue said if you by next to a pub ?????

Bob S

[maxxi]

Just paid my first visit to CPT (well, I've only been here five years) to watch Everton-Man City and, at the risk of repeating what regulars have already said, what a good place for a drink.

Wonderful wood carving (is it machined repro or original? - either way it works) especially around the doorway to the backrooms/stairs. So much still there including the single dangling gaslight fitting and the layout of porch and two bars is a nice change from the airport-departure-lounge feel of so many knocked-through pubs. It needs a facelift but they shouldn't mess with the basic layout or the original fittings.

?3.30 for a fine pint of Spitfire and a good view of the game seemed reasonable. Having only now discovered the place I would like to return to watch more football and drink more Spitfire before it is turned (if indeed it is) into an ED clone.

[Jah Lush]

Well it's about time Maxxi. It's certainly my local choice for viewing the football. All the wood carving is original. I'd hate to see any of that go. I took a couple of pictures for posterity. What I like about the place is it's like two pubs in one. I sat in the old bar on Sunday because I didn't want to watch the Arsenal match. To paraphrase Bill Shankly - "If they were playing in my back garden I'd draw the curtains." The Spitfire's good but so's the Doombar. They do a bloody good pint of Guinness too. Make sure you go back soon. Cheers!

[Sue]

Jah Lush Wrote:

> The Spitfire's good but so's the Doombar. They do

> a bloody good pint of Guinness too. Make sure you

> go back soon. Cheers!

xxxxxxx

I do remember on at least one occasion, must have been several years ago though, they actually had no ale at all!!!!

[Lishyloo]

Otta Wrote:

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> And I don't agree re the Uplands, I think the

> Actress is a vast improvement. I live round the

> corner, and I didn't like the vibe in the Uplands

> at all, whereas I like the Actress.

>

> You're missing my point Sue, The Actress is

> undoubtedly a vast improvement.

> so your saying that the people who drank in there where scum?

> The Uplands pre 2002 was a traditional pub

> building. It was a dive, but a nice building.

>

> It was then completely gutted, and remained a

> dive, but one that felt like a cinema foyer. The

> nice bits of the building could not be replaced.

>

> The Actress is NOT a dive (although not really my

> bag), and is miles better than The Uplands, buit

> the gutting of the building in 2002 can not be

> undone, so the nice stuff about it is lost

> forever. That is all I am trying to say, I thought

> it was pretty clear.

[Sue]

Eh?

[mynamehere]

A question for the experts:

Is it possible to soundproof a building to the point that whatever happens inside cannot be heard on the other side of the property wall? And then so long as people enter and leave with decorum.... what happens inside stays inside? Sorry if I'm in left field, I haven't studied this thread.

[Sue]

Jamie had already soundproofed the bar as much as possible as a result of this woman's constant complaints.

And had put up signs asking people to be considerate of neighbours when leaving etc..

It's hard to see what more he could have done.

Why this woman bought a house near a pub when most houses for sale are not near a pub is a mystery to me. Maybe she wants it closed down so that she can buy it? Who knows.