Bill?s opening on East Dulwich Road rumours?

[malumbu]

The coalition government tried it with the Portas review. It failed. Well at least they tried. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/08/mary-portas-save-high-street-scheme-has-failed-1000-shops-have/

Shopping and eating habits have changed. Brand recognition is ever more important - see the queues outside of Pret, and one or two at the independent sandwich shop near where I work. Brands of course get it wrong too don't they Jamie.

Perhaps Corbo will take us back to the 1960s with price controls and other restrictions. Still happens in France. Doubt it though.

The one thing though is the disproportionate impact of rents on the indies - addressing that I can agree with.

[NewWave]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> I read a headline yesterday about Labour having

> some ideas of how to save our high streets, didn't

> read the article, but have always thought that the

> Gov of the day should try and help independent

> retailers like they do with first-time buyers.

> High rents seems to be the common factor why these

> smaller shops eventually close down. Perhaps some

> kind of rental tax relief is needed if not already

> provided...

Totally would support this..i have a bee in my bonnet about the homogenisation of our high streets.

its killing London.

And why bother shopping anywhere when the chains offer it all online.

ditto chain resturants. just mediocre offerings for those too lazy to cook

[Sue]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Bill's food is overpriced frozen rubbish anyway -

> it's a looong way from what the original in Lewes

> used to be like

>

> I live in Lewes and never go near the place

You live in Lewes?

Lucky you! I used to live in Ditchling!

WTF are you doing posting on here? :)

[Sue]

Loutwo Wrote:

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> In answer to malumbu?s first question.

>

> This is in the lounge because I am unable to post

> in the other section.

No! Have you been banned again ?!?!?!?

Commiserations etc ....

[Seabag]

Am I wrong in thinking that business rates are the largest source of local government money?

I?m sure I heard such a thing on the radio last week.

[Sephiroth]

?WTF are you doing posting on here? ?

You can take the man out of east dulwich etc.

Yours

StraferJack/SeanMacGabhann

Plus brother still lives in se22 so I?m up and about to keep an eye on ?things?

[JohnL]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> I live opposite Aneto and am sad to hear of its

> closure. It did seem to be a more successful

> formula than the previous iterations (Flying Pig

> etc) at least in terms of footfall.

>

> If Bills does move in then my use of the place

> will not change - occasionally for breakfast when

> I am feeling lazy or the odd takeaway coffee.

>

> The issue is, of course, rent.

>

> As a chain Bill can drive down the production cost

> of its food and drink by bulk buying and a degree

> of mass central preparation of food. The cost of

> staffing is a moot point, did Aneto pay above

> minimum wage or London Living Wage?

The advert actually mentioned TUPE for the staff as part of the contract (if the new business is similar) - but I guess there are ways around that.

[Sue]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> ?WTF are you doing posting on here? ?

>

> You can take the man out of east dulwich etc.

>

> Yours

> StraferJack/SeanMacGabhann

>

> Plus brother still lives in se22 so I?m up and

> about to keep an eye on ?things?

:))

[ed_pete]

I asked Bill's and this was their response "Thank you for your enquiry. I'm afraid this is just a rumour as we currently have no plans to open in East Dulwich, although we'll certainly keep it in mind for future reference!"

[fishbiscuits]

ed_pete Wrote:

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> we currently have no plans to open in East Dulwich

I for one am shocked. I was convinced the OP was genuine!

[alice]

The OP was genuine.

[fishbiscuits]

Hahaha... very good...

[Wimpole]

A quick search would reveal this is standard from Lou. I'm amazed everyone was reeled in again. Well done Lou.... Scoring you a firm 9 for varying off the old "low market brand crashes gentrified idyll / I was just checking the planning apps format".

Would have been 10 if ed-Pete hadn't busted ya. Next time....

[JohnL]

it still says "under offer" - so maybe another Bill

[Loutwo]

I can only go by information supplied to me via the local paper shop. I am a regular since Londis on LL closed. The chap told me Bill?s had been looking into opening locally for a while. I can only assume they?re either staying quiet until they can verify they?ll be taking a lease on for certain, or until they?ve put forward planning permission for signage and reconfiguration of the layout etc watch this space I would say.

Louisa.

[Wimpole]

Lolz.

[fishbiscuits]

Haha... yeah I expect they're keeping it quiet...

[Wimpole]

fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> Haha... yeah I expect they're keeping it quiet...

Indeed. It's probably top of their "corporate secrets" list.... :-)

[Loutwo]

Usual suspects causing trouble.

You?ll have egg on your faces when Bill?s do open. Will I get an apology? Unlikely.

Louisa.

[diable rouge]

That's just it Lou, they're not the 'usual suspects', the silent majority are rising!...

[DulwichFox]

So will that be Bills Peckham or Bills East Dulwich.

Was at time when Bellenden Road wanted to be part of East Dulwich

but now that Peckham is supposedly the Poshest place in South London

Everywhere from Forest Hill to New Cross wants to be part of Peckham.

[Seabag]

#fakefoxnews

Forest hill does not want to be ?part of Peckham?

What a load of cark

[Seabag]

About Peckham, and ED for that matter.

When it was still an absolute degenerated shit hole (pretty much), certain posters used to write these ?Oxford Street Of South London? laments, back in the day, all nostalgic and misty eyed.

But when it actually starts to rise again, become something of itself, regenerate as it were.

We get a sneering tone about that very same place, as if Peckham has got a high opinion of itself it doesn?t deserve.

?I remember it when it was blah blah blah and dead dogs roamed the lane?

Please, get back in your can. It?s happening and you?re either part of it or not.

It does not miss you btw, it?s looking forward, not back, like it or not.

Why not sell up your wonderfully valuable gaff, in or close to the place you?re now so contemptuous of, and fkoff somewhere else. Live high on the equity and drive someone else to despair with your negativity.

Really, it?s not rocket science.

[Loutwo]

Nah that?s BS, sorry Seabag. There?s a difference between evolution of a neighbourhood, decline or prosper, it?s all relative. But when a artificial and absolute take over happens, the dreaded G word is to blame. People aren?t lamenting a treasured past, they?re simply looking back over their own existence and comparing and contrasting. Entirely different to having their offspring unable to buy in the same neighbourhood their parents and grandparents grew up in. That?s not right, that?s the market out of control. And it?s not just Dulwich or Peckham, London or New York. It?s happening the western world over, and shifting populations at a whim and entirely to the mercy of market forces. Not fair.

Louisa.

[NewWave]

Loutwo Wrote:

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> Nah that?s BS, sorry Seabag. There?s a difference

> between evolution of a neighbourhood, decline or

> prosper, it?s all relative. But when a artificial

> and absolute take over happens, the dreaded G word

> is to blame. People aren?t lamenting a treasured

> past, they?re simply looking back over their own

> existence and comparing and contrasting. Entirely

> different to having their offspring unable to buy

> in the same neighbourhood their parents and

> grandparents grew up in. That?s not right, that?s

> the market out of control. And it?s not just

> Dulwich or Peckham, London or New York. It?s

> happening the western world over, and shifting

> populations at a whim and entirely to the mercy of

> market forces. Not fair.

>

> Louisa.

I tend to agree..I would love to have remained in Notting hill where my mum grew up and I was born-I still have friends there and even after living in SE for 9 years going to W10 feels like 'home' and holds so many memories.

But sadly when my parents died I decided to move for purely financial reasons.

I was in a tiny flat and couldn't afford anything bigger there because the area is so 'sought after' I won't say gentified because I grew up on a council estate and there are still some pretty rough estates round there but a 1 bed ex council flat sells for about 450k!

my next move will need to be away from london completely-