Euro 2012

[titch juicy]

after having the grave misfortune of being duped into watching england on saturday evening, i don't want them to do well

i will be supporting germany and couldn't give a monkey's what anyone thinks- i'm happy to admit that i'm very much a fair weather england fan- all my football love is for tottenham

the only reason i'll watch the england games is to ensure parker and defoe don't get injured

i think france will surprise a few people

germany, spain, netherlands, france as semi-finalists

england to scrape second in the group and lose to spain in the q-final

[Otta]

England to win, Carroll to win the Golden Boot... :)-D

You heard it here first.

:-S

[Otta]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> I was petty much alarmed by the number of

> Liverpool players featured in yesterday's game.

> Especially as Liverpool had a mediocre season.

Why were you alarmed? It was a friendly, with 6 substituations allowed, and the manager's first chance to have a look at the players as the boss.

[El Pibe]

Given the dearth of English talent in the top teams it's harldy surprising to be dipping into the mediocre ones for a squad of 22.

Funny that it's liverpool causing such chagrin despite your pleas that you don't have an unhealthy obsession with them, you could have commented on the goalie having spent the whole season in the championship for instance!!

[maxxi]

The only thing 'alarming' about the England performance was that it was like all the other pre-tourny performances...

Very Capello-like in their possession footy and in passing it around with an air of calm nonchalance and the usual disintegration into impotence in the second half...

all very sedate and unruffled... as usual...

until the first proper competitive game when they will all hurry the ball around as though it were a grenade with the pin out, pass badly, hit long balls and generally play with the fear, panic and lack of skill that has categorised England's major tournament performances for years.

[titch juicy]

Otta Wrote:

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> Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> > I was petty much alarmed by the number of

> > Liverpool players featured in yesterday's game.

> > Especially as Liverpool had a mediocre season.

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> Why were you alarmed? It was a friendly, with 6

> substituations allowed, and the manager's first

> chance to have a look at the players as the boss.

one of two warm-up games for a tournament in which he gave games to three players not going to said tournament (including one that didn't even make the stand-by list)

Baffling

[Otta]

Well yes, that's a bit weird, but I still don't see why UDT was "pretty much alarmed", which suggests he wasn't quite alarmed, just on the verge.

[El Pibe]

I guess if you deeply care it could be alarming.

In my experience the majority of England fan's level of concern has withered from deep to marginal over the last 18 years or so.

Baffling is better, par for the course though so perhaps 'meh' would more accurately sum up reactions to the game.

[Undisputedtruth]

"You are only as good as your weakest link" said my football coach during my playing days. And so most of these Liverpool players are weak links as far as I'm concern. However I do get this feeling that Carroll would perform well during the tournament. He was unplayable judging by his last two FA match appearances and is peaking at the right time. He would be a key player for England as long as he stays away from booze and women.

[Undisputedtruth]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> you could have

> commented on the goalie having spent the whole

> season in the championship for instance!!

Not quite, Green is a top class keeper as long as he keeps his nerves. Fortunately Joe Hart is world class and will give England the confidence to progress in the tournament.

[maxxi]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> "You are only as good as your weakness link" said

> my football coach during my playing days.

Mine once said "Ohhhhh you are a bloody disgrace! Hey Baz!*... For missing the target from there you want bloody shooting!"

*He always called me that.

[Undisputedtruth]

There you go Maxxi, as you're a West Ham supporter: "If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he'd have put grass up there"

[Huguenot]

Is UDT's refusal to disclose his own club affiliations simply an act of cowardice?

Making jibes about other peoples enthusiams for a bloke who hides behind anonymity is just a bit wheedly no?

[Undisputedtruth]

Hugo, *yawn*, I've been asked this question before and my standard response is I prefer to play football rather than supporting a team.

[maxxi]

I hope Hodgson's decision to give lampard the #8 shirt and Parker the #17 is not a reflection of his intentions when it comes to a starting eleven... (ditto Terry - Lescott).

[Jah Lush]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Hugo, *yawn*, I've been asked this question before

> and my standard response is I prefer to play

> football rather than supporting a team.

Hmmm... do you still play then? Will you admit who you support when you stop playing? I think that is a bog standard excuse for not coming out and admitting what team you support. Everybody who follows football supports a specific team. I expect you'll be the exception to the rule though.

Anyway..... back to the Euros.

Ummmm...... not much to report really apart from Birmingham City's keeper coming in for the injured Ruddy. What a ruddy shame for him.

[Jah Lush]

Why the buggery fcuk is Jordan Henderson on standby for England if Lampard doesn't make it? He's had a crap season by anyone's standards. Roy Hodgson seems to be having a bit of a love in with Liverpool's players - Johnson, Downing, Gerrard and Carroll have all had very mediocre seasons. Why not Micah Richards, Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon and Peter Crouch. All of whom have performed better over the same period.

[titch juicy]

not to mention carrick over henderson

[Jah Lush]

I agree but apparently Carrick informed the FA in January via his agent that he no longer wanted to be considered for an England call-up but I sure he could have been persuaded.

[Otta]

I woldn't want to see Gerrard left out, and I genuinely think this could be Carroll's time to shine. I like Croutch, but I don't think he's really good enough against the top sides. Carroll may not be either, but it's his turn to have a chance.

Can't believe that Micah Richards & Aaron Lennon aren't going!

[maxxi]

I just hope Hodgson gives Ox-Ch a run out and doesn't insist on playing him out of position. England need something new to give them a boost and he could be it. Otherwise same-ol' same-ol'.

[ratty]

Fat Frank is out

[maxxi]

ratty Wrote:

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> Fat Frank is out

:))

[Undisputedtruth]

Where's Daniel Sturridge? He has more ability than Danny Welbeck.

[Jah Lush]

And Joe Cole?