Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?

[first mate]

And children that get upset...? Are you also going to argue that people with children that get upset by fireworks should ship out too?

Forget the myriad emotional and social benefits pet ownership gives to so many, let's make the option to have a 10 minutes worth of ear-splitting impromptu explosions the priority.

[Asset]

Oh my god - turn the TV up for 10 minutes so the dog can't hear them - or should we all not get to enjoy fireworks anymore because a few dogs might get upset. And I'm speaking as someone who has cats and a dog.

The OP was in with the dog, else how did they know the poor dog was so terrified?, I'm sure 10 minutes of loud TV would have cured the problem.

Jeez - no one died.

Anyway - so is anyone going to suggest any practical way an organisation can mitigate the irritation and very temporary inconvenience some people clearly suffer or are you just going to moan on here?

[pk]

Angelina Wrote:

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> Fireworks are actually really frightening for dogs

> and can make them behave in unpredictable ways,

> which can be unsafe and dangerous for them.

>

> Owners need to be able to prepare and plan and be

> there when they start - which is usually at

> expected times.

>

> It's thoughtless in a community to not care about

> other people and the effects this has on them.

>

> No one is being boring - just practical and

> concerned.

so if we're running stupid arguments - lots of children are scared of dogs, so shouldn't dog owners care about those terrified and traumatised children and not have dogs that they take out in public?

or are the rights of dogs more important than those of children?

or is this all really a bit ridiculous?

[pk]

Metallic Wrote:

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> There is no reason why an organisation, club or school

> can't make an effort to tell people in advance.

> All it takes is a few quid to leaflet or post

> leaflets up in a diameter of a mile.

it wouldn't be good for the environment tho would it? all that unnecessary paper

[Angelina]

they could post on the forum

[Asset]

"they could post on the forum"

I supposes then at least the people who go on the forum to moan about fireworks would know - but what about the thousands of residents within the 2 mile radius that don't?

[first mate]

Indeed, that's all that is being asked; no bans, no removal of freedoms, just a bit of notice. Sorry this seems to be such an impossible task for some.

[pk]

first mate Wrote:

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> Indeed, that's all that is being asked; no bans,

> no removal of freedoms, just a bit of notice.

> Sorry this seems to be such an impossible task for

> some.

Perhaps the same could apply to people taking dogs out in public so that people who are scared of dogs could know to avoid, guess it?d have to be restricted to specific hours otherwise people might find it difficult to avoid dogs

[first mate]

Seriously?!

[pk]

first mate Wrote:

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> Seriously?!

Obviously not

It?s ridiculous, like most of this thread

[first mate]

Have a read around the impact of fireworks on pet animals ( veterinary research etc..) and if you still feel the same I would be surprised.

[pk]

first mate Wrote:

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> Have a read around the impact of fireworks on pet

> animals ( veterinary research etc..) and if you

> still feel the same I would be surprised.

So how do you (realistically) think notice should work?

Blanket leaflet drops, as has been suggested?

[first mate]

In this day and age an advertising combination (a few leaflets, local forums, social media, notice to local vets) would get the word out and it would then spread fairly quickly, I am sure.

Knowing a few days in advance enables the owner to ensure they are home, prep the home, and if the animal has serious noise sensitivity sedating meds can be dispensed, or the owner can go somewhere else for the night.

Anyway, thanks for asking a genuine question.

[pk]

In practice any coverage would be limited, but I agree that a few posters in the immediate area isn?t much to ask, particularly if they cover local dog walking places

Then maybe dog owners could flag forthcoming displays in their areas on a dog owners forum

Then people with dogs that are badly affected by fireworks could check for displays local to them from time to time and makes plans accordingly

[carlafindle]

Contact the 'perbitraitors' if you're so concerned instead of blabbering on this forum...

[first mate]

pk Wrote:

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> In practice any coverage would be limited, but I

> agree that a few posters in the immediate area

> isn?t much to ask, particularly if they cover

> local dog walking places

>

> Then maybe dog owners could flag forthcoming

> displays in their areas on a dog owners forum

>

> Then people with dogs that are badly affected by

> fireworks could check for displays local to them

> from time to time and makes plans accordingly

We agree😃

[Asset]

OK, don't forget about posters and leaflets in all the local nurseries and children's play areas, parent fora etc etc. so the parents can prepare and make sure their children aren't disturbed.

How far radius should be covered? I suggest 2 miles from the display, also I think prevailing winds should be taken into account and perhaps the range of leafleting should be extended by a mile or two in that direction.

Maybe some full page adverts in the local press too.

[pk]

Asset Wrote:

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> OK, don't forget about posters and leaflets in all

> the local nurseries and children's play areas,

> parent fora etc etc. so the parents can prepare

> and make sure their children aren't disturbed.

>

> How far radius should be covered? I suggest 2

> miles from the display, also I think prevailing

> winds should be taken into account and perhaps the

> range of leafleting should be extended by a mile

> or two in that direction.

>

> Maybe some full page adverts in the local press

> too.

Or a few posters strategically placed and the dog owner network spreads the word?

Like what?s been suggested

[ED Light]

We loved it - my daughter and I watched from our loft (obviously, it?s East Dulwich) and enjoyed every minute

[Asset]

*rolls eyes*

[Metallic]

Notice could be on this Forum and in the local Society e -newsletters. By the way - the only people who knew about the fireworks were the people at the party, the golf club and the fireworks techies. Until the booms started that is.

I am not against fireworks. I couldn't give a toss about parties where they are let off at 10.30 to 1040 pm. Just saying a bit of neighbourly consideration to SE22, SE21 and SE23 wouldn't have gone amiss.

[Metallic]

pk Wrote:

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> first mate Wrote:

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> -----

> > Indeed, that's all that is being asked; no

> bans,

> > no removal of freedoms, just a bit of notice.

> > Sorry this seems to be such an impossible task

> for

> > some.

>

>

> Perhaps the same could apply to people taking dogs

> out in public so that people who are scared of

> dogs could know to avoid, guess it?d have to be

> restricted to specific hours otherwise people

> might find it difficult to avoid dogs

You are quite ridiculous mate.

[Metallic]

ED Light Wrote:

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> We loved it - my daughter and I watched from our

> loft (obviously, it?s East Dulwich) and enjoyed

> every minute

How old is your daughter?

[Metallic]

I don't know what time your march is, I would like to support you on here at least - there is a big Southwark meeting at Alleyn's on 12 October, all morning, and many locals are planning to have their say at it, so sorry I can't join.

Sorry - wrong place!

[Townleygreen]

That meeting Metallic refers to is here

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/roadworks-and-highway-improvements/street-improvements/our-healthy-streets-dulwich

it's an Our Healthy Streets consultation