Jump to content

Recommended Posts

And children that get upset...? Are you also going to argue that people with children that get upset by fireworks should ship out too?


Forget the myriad emotional and social benefits pet ownership gives to so many, let's make the option to have a 10 minutes worth of ear-splitting impromptu explosions the priority.

Oh my god - turn the TV up for 10 minutes so the dog can't hear them - or should we all not get to enjoy fireworks anymore because a few dogs might get upset. And I'm speaking as someone who has cats and a dog.

The OP was in with the dog, else how did they know the poor dog was so terrified?, I'm sure 10 minutes of loud TV would have cured the problem.

Jeez - no one died.


Anyway - so is anyone going to suggest any practical way an organisation can mitigate the irritation and very temporary inconvenience some people clearly suffer or are you just going to moan on here?

Angelina Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Fireworks are actually really frightening for dogs

> and can make them behave in unpredictable ways,

> which can be unsafe and dangerous for them.

>

> Owners need to be able to prepare and plan and be

> there when they start - which is usually at

> expected times.

>

> It's thoughtless in a community to not care about

> other people and the effects this has on them.

>

> No one is being boring - just practical and

> concerned.



so if we're running stupid arguments - lots of children are scared of dogs, so shouldn't dog owners care about those terrified and traumatised children and not have dogs that they take out in public?


or are the rights of dogs more important than those of children?


or is this all really a bit ridiculous?

Metallic Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> There is no reason why an organisation, club or school

> can't make an effort to tell people in advance.

> All it takes is a few quid to leaflet or post

> leaflets up in a diameter of a mile.


it wouldn't be good for the environment tho would it? all that unnecessary paper

first mate Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Indeed, that's all that is being asked; no bans,

> no removal of freedoms, just a bit of notice.

> Sorry this seems to be such an impossible task for

> some.



Perhaps the same could apply to people taking dogs out in public so that people who are scared of dogs could know to avoid, guess it?d have to be restricted to specific hours otherwise people might find it difficult to avoid dogs

first mate Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Have a read around the impact of fireworks on pet

> animals ( veterinary research etc..) and if you

> still feel the same I would be surprised.



So how do you (realistically) think notice should work?

Blanket leaflet drops, as has been suggested?

In this day and age an advertising combination (a few leaflets, local forums, social media, notice to local vets) would get the word out and it would then spread fairly quickly, I am sure.


Knowing a few days in advance enables the owner to ensure they are home, prep the home, and if the animal has serious noise sensitivity sedating meds can be dispensed, or the owner can go somewhere else for the night.


Anyway, thanks for asking a genuine question.

In practice any coverage would be limited, but I agree that a few posters in the immediate area isn?t much to ask, particularly if they cover local dog walking places


Then maybe dog owners could flag forthcoming displays in their areas on a dog owners forum


Then people with dogs that are badly affected by fireworks could check for displays local to them from time to time and makes plans accordingly

pk Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> In practice any coverage would be limited, but I

> agree that a few posters in the immediate area

> isn?t much to ask, particularly if they cover

> local dog walking places

>

> Then maybe dog owners could flag forthcoming

> displays in their areas on a dog owners forum

>

> Then people with dogs that are badly affected by

> fireworks could check for displays local to them

> from time to time and makes plans accordingly


We agree😃

OK, don't forget about posters and leaflets in all the local nurseries and children's play areas, parent fora etc etc. so the parents can prepare and make sure their children aren't disturbed.


How far radius should be covered? I suggest 2 miles from the display, also I think prevailing winds should be taken into account and perhaps the range of leafleting should be extended by a mile or two in that direction.


Maybe some full page adverts in the local press too.

Asset Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> OK, don't forget about posters and leaflets in all

> the local nurseries and children's play areas,

> parent fora etc etc. so the parents can prepare

> and make sure their children aren't disturbed.

>

> How far radius should be covered? I suggest 2

> miles from the display, also I think prevailing

> winds should be taken into account and perhaps the

> range of leafleting should be extended by a mile

> or two in that direction.

>

> Maybe some full page adverts in the local press

> too.



Or a few posters strategically placed and the dog owner network spreads the word?


Like what?s been suggested

Notice could be on this Forum and in the local Society e -newsletters. By the way - the only people who knew about the fireworks were the people at the party, the golf club and the fireworks techies. Until the booms started that is.


I am not against fireworks. I couldn't give a toss about parties where they are let off at 10.30 to 1040 pm. Just saying a bit of neighbourly consideration to SE22, SE21 and SE23 wouldn't have gone amiss.

pk Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> first mate Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Indeed, that's all that is being asked; no

> bans,

> > no removal of freedoms, just a bit of notice.

> > Sorry this seems to be such an impossible task

> for

> > some.

>

>

> Perhaps the same could apply to people taking dogs

> out in public so that people who are scared of

> dogs could know to avoid, guess it?d have to be

> restricted to specific hours otherwise people

> might find it difficult to avoid dogs


You are quite ridiculous mate.

I don't know what time your march is, I would like to support you on here at least - there is a big Southwark meeting at Alleyn's on 12 October, all morning, and many locals are planning to have their say at it, so sorry I can't join.


Sorry - wrong place!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Having a BBQ (fingers crossed) in 2 weeks and need a small BBQ for veggie bits and any spare benches or garden tables and chairs to borrow to add to mine. Any going? Thanks in advance...
    • Oh dear, hope you are OK, I've had it three times and it was worse each time, but not a patch on many of those who got it before they vac' role out. Not commenting on the discussion as I got confused many days ago beyond the reminder that Corbyn would not compromise and the harm that could lead to him, the party and regards Brexit pre and post referendum the country.  Starmer goes too far the other way at times.  
    • I am  ill in bed with Covid. It's not that I "can't be bothered" to read things. I am feeling crap and don't have the mental  energy at the moment. I am not "brushing stuff aside and pleading ignorance." I am truthfully saying when I don't presently know enough about something to be able to comment. I have always been very careful to try to  differentiate between fact and opinion in both  my posts and other people's, and I am not clear what your point is. And I am certainly not trying to wind anybody up. This is a forum. If you don't want to respond to my posts, that's up to you. I'm not sure why you feel the need to announce it.   
    • @NewWave I know how you feel. Like you, I've lived and spent prolonged periods of time in some pretty crazy places and always thought I could handle a bunch of kids. But, no - they got to me and I was shaking like a leaf afterwards. That's what age does to us.  But I did engage with them, so bear that in mind.  My advice would be to never let anything like that stop you doing the things you love. I'm certainly not going to stop using the park, there's no way they get to take away our cherished spaces!  If you see them, just change tack and keep out of their way. My dog won't even go that way again, so that's that problem solved. (If I see them again, I'm going to keep taking photos from a safe distance). 
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...