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Whilst taking pictures of the Mural in its early stages I was confronted by a couple

of local people one of which I know, saying what an eyesore they thought it was.


I thought I would reserve my judgement until it was finished.


Speaking to a Resident of Nutfield Road who thought the Mural was dreadful.

That person had made enquiries as to how much it was costing the local council.

They were told Southwark Council were paying ?10,000 for the commission.


DulwichFox

Don?t tell me people get paid to do this stuff?


The thought that Artless Dodger might be encouraged by cash for the rubbish stuff he puts up is mind boggling. Just take a look at the ?Graff? on the Nunshead by him. It features a Nun, with a wine glass and the contents are blue. You get it, blue + Nun = Blue Nun, you know, Blue Nun wine...ha ha! So witty, it could be a sixth form art project.


But sadly no. An adult with a liquor license actually agreed to let him daub the pub with such nonsense.


For balance, I?m not against most of the street ?art? here. Even some of the stuff I don?t greatly enjoy I?m happy to appreciate others may do so. But I draw the line at the stuff I describe above. It?s pants.

first mate Wrote:

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> If true that is a pretty poor use of public money.

> Is there anyone who can confirm the cost and

> whether a council commission? In my view it has no

> merit whatsoever.



Are we still talking about the one in North Cross Road?


I don't think it's finished yet. I sincerely hope not.

Yes Sue, that's the one. As I said I don't want to be negative but went and had a look yesterday and try as I might just could not find anything to like. It looks part creche part Teletubbies. As you say, perhaps not yet finsihed and will be transformed as more work done. Perhaps other people will absolutely adore it and it will become a treasured local landmark- each to their own. But...I am interested in who commissioned it and cost.

The Money could of been spent on something more beneficial to the local Community.


The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in Peterborough rasised ?25,000

to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their playing field.


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If only Southwark Council had more imagination. A similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.

Not just for children. For adults too.


https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=3&gcatid=2&albumid=95


DulwichFox.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> The Money could of been spent on something more

> beneficial to the local Community.

>

> The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in

> Peterborough rasised ?25,000

> to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their playing

> field.

>

> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/ima

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> ageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/th

> umb-IMG_0567.jpghttps://www.heritageparkschool.co.

> uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/thumb-DAL_4808.JPG

>

> If only Southwark Council had more imagination. A

> similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.

> Not just for children. For adults too.

>

> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=

> 3&gcatid=2&albumid=95

>



There is outdoor gym equipment in both Dulwich Park and Peckham Rye Park.

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> -----

> > The Money could of been spent on something more

> > beneficial to the local Community.

> >

> > The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in

> > Peterborough rasised ?25,000

> > to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their

> playing

> > field.

> >

> >

> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/ima

>

> >

> ges/gallery/95/thumb-IMG_0560.jpghttps://www.herit

>

> >

> ageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/th

>

> >

> umb-IMG_0567.jpghttps://www.heritageparkschool.co.

>

> >

> uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/thumb-DAL_4808.JPG

> >

> > If only Southwark Council had more imagination.

> A

> > similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.

> > Not just for children. For adults too.

> >

> >

> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=

>

> > 3&gcatid=2&albumid=95

> >

>

>

> There is outdoor gym equipment in both Dulwich

> Park and Peckham Rye Park.


... and probably in Crystal Palace Park ??? and Possibly in Burgess Park


But not Local in East Dulwich where money was made available

Wish I had Instagram - could have had a chance to vote on the mural. I'm one of these old folks who've lived here nearly 40 years but just have a laptop and dumb 'phone.

Seems a pointless piece of abstract work, could have shown part of local history maybe? Better than a blank wall though.


The one in Bellenden Road is good - local history and figurative colourful work.


But what do i know!?

I have been following the process of the Mural.

They were trying to paint Small Mauve circles on a Red Semi-Circle but seemed

to be having problems making them round with the paint running down the wall.

They have since painted over them. They do not seem to have a plan.

Making it up as they go along.


These people surely cannot be 'Competent' Artists. Dreadfull

DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote:

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> That design was voted

> for.....https://www.instagram.com/p/B3hZX7sHPw3/?i

> gshid=1utzs35pc5ts8

> Not my kind of thing either but at least it?s

> bright. The only positive I can find.



Who voted for it? I live nearby, and don't remember being asked to vote.

These people surely cannot be 'Competent' Artists. Dreadfull (sic)


Leonarda da Vinci was reputedly a good artist but was technically crap at fresco painting (viz the deterioration of his Last Supper) - being a good artist and being proficient at mural painting are not necessarily the same thing. And just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not good (or at least accepted as good) art. I can't stand Cy Twombly for instance, - but that's my problem.

mynamehere Wrote:

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> If you go on this walk I think all will be

> revealed.anyhow you can ask questions and vent

> 😉

>

> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/street-art-walk-tic

> kets-80892903853?fbclid=IwAR31ctmLOxH7ylNf6YkVyyZD

> UZRBLu4TapKl93z6--UcBOlSO-dlJ9wPPfU

>

> Dulwich Picture Gallery



I went on one of these walks some years back, with Ingrid Beazley (R.I.P.) and if memory serves it only covered the street art which was based on pictures at the gallery.


It may have changed, of course, but I guess even if it hasn't maybe they will know something about this mural.

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