Sephiroth Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just had a peek on google streetview - you get a view of that wall from 2012 through to no and can see the plain wall as The Mag, before becoming The Patch and that's when it arrived (as Sue already correctly noted) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 So anyone know when the new 'mural' is going up? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMikaelson Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Lynne Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Garish, out of keeping with the locality, pseudo> simplistic. I could go on.+1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
se22cat Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Personally, I love it! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Whilst taking pictures of the Mural in its early stages I was confronted by a couple of local people one of which I know, saying what an eyesore they thought it was. I thought I would reserve my judgement until it was finished. Speaking to a Resident of Nutfield Road who thought the Mural was dreadful. That person had made enquiries as to how much it was costing the local council. They were told Southwark Council were paying ?10,000 for the commission. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 If true that is a pretty poor use of public money. Is there anyone who can confirm the cost and whether a council commission? In my view it has no merit whatsoever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Don?t tell me people get paid to do this stuff?The thought that Artless Dodger might be encouraged by cash for the rubbish stuff he puts up is mind boggling. Just take a look at the ?Graff? on the Nunshead by him. It features a Nun, with a wine glass and the contents are blue. You get it, blue + Nun = Blue Nun, you know, Blue Nun wine...ha ha! So witty, it could be a sixth form art project.But sadly no. An adult with a liquor license actually agreed to let him daub the pub with such nonsense.For balance, I?m not against most of the street ?art? here. Even some of the stuff I don?t greatly enjoy I?m happy to appreciate others may do so. But I draw the line at the stuff I describe above. It?s pants. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 first mate Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If true that is a pretty poor use of public money.> Is there anyone who can confirm the cost and> whether a council commission? In my view it has no> merit whatsoever.Are we still talking about the one in North Cross Road?I don't think it's finished yet. I sincerely hope not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1381988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Yes Sue, that's the one. As I said I don't want to be negative but went and had a look yesterday and try as I might just could not find anything to like. It looks part creche part Teletubbies. As you say, perhaps not yet finsihed and will be transformed as more work done. Perhaps other people will absolutely adore it and it will become a treasured local landmark- each to their own. But...I am interested in who commissioned it and cost. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Funded by council scheme requested by north cross road shops to draw attention to their shops and the market. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMikaelson Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Whatever it is it looks like it belongs in a childrens playground. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Presumably not finished then? Guessing NX road market or similar to be inscribed on mural? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 FreyaMikaelson Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Whatever it is it looks like it belongs in a> childrens playground.Perhaps that is how the council view local resident and environs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwich Born And Bred Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That design was voted for.....https://www.instagram.com/p/B3hZX7sHPw3/?igshid=1utzs35pc5ts8Not my kind of thing either but at least it?s bright. The only positive I can find. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Money could of been spent on something more beneficial to the local Community.The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in Peterborough rasised ?25,000 to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their playing field. If only Southwark Council had more imagination. A similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.Not just for children. For adults too.https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=3&gcatid=2&albumid=95DulwichFox. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMikaelson Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I agree with you, DulwichFox.Also, the mural doesn't look like any of those pictured in the line up on Instagram. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The Money could of been spent on something more> beneficial to the local Community.> > The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in> Peterborough rasised ?25,000 > to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their playing> field. > > https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/ima> ges/gallery/95/thumb-IMG_0560.jpghttps://www.herit> ageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/th> umb-IMG_0567.jpghttps://www.heritageparkschool.co.> uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/thumb-DAL_4808.JPG> > If only Southwark Council had more imagination. A> similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.> Not just for children. For adults too.> > https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=> 3&gcatid=2&albumid=95> There is outdoor gym equipment in both Dulwich Park and Peckham Rye Park. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DulwichFox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > The Money could of been spent on something more> > beneficial to the local Community.> > > > The Children at Heritage Park Primary School in> > Peterborough rasised ?25,000 > > to pay for Outside Gym Equipment on their> playing> > field. > > > >> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/ima> > >> ges/gallery/95/thumb-IMG_0560.jpghttps://www.herit> > >> ageparkschool.co.uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/th> > >> umb-IMG_0567.jpghttps://www.heritageparkschool.co.> > >> uk/_includes/images/gallery/95/thumb-DAL_4808.JPG> > > > If only Southwark Council had more imagination.> A> > similar facility on Goose Green Perhaps.> > Not just for children. For adults too.> > > >> https://www.heritageparkschool.co.uk/gallery/?pid=> > > 3&gcatid=2&albumid=95> > > > > There is outdoor gym equipment in both Dulwich> Park and Peckham Rye Park.... and probably in Crystal Palace Park ??? and Possibly in Burgess Park But not Local in East Dulwich where money was made available Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 I believe the money for the mural came out of the High Street Challenge funding or something similar. Money for fitness equipment for Goose Green, much as it would be well used, would come out of a separate budget. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i*Rate Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Wish I had Instagram - could have had a chance to vote on the mural. I'm one of these old folks who've lived here nearly 40 years but just have a laptop and dumb 'phone.Seems a pointless piece of abstract work, could have shown part of local history maybe? Better than a blank wall though.The one in Bellenden Road is good - local history and figurative colourful work.But what do i know!? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have been following the process of the Mural. They were trying to paint Small Mauve circles on a Red Semi-Circle but seemed to be having problems making them round with the paint running down the wall. They have since painted over them. They do not seem to have a plan. Making it up as they go along. These people surely cannot be 'Competent' Artists. Dreadfull Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> That design was voted> for.....https://www.instagram.com/p/B3hZX7sHPw3/?i> gshid=1utzs35pc5ts8> Not my kind of thing either but at least it?s> bright. The only positive I can find.Who voted for it? I live nearby, and don't remember being asked to vote. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 These people surely cannot be 'Competent' Artists. Dreadfull (sic)Leonarda da Vinci was reputedly a good artist but was technically crap at fresco painting (viz the deterioration of his Last Supper) - being a good artist and being proficient at mural painting are not necessarily the same thing. And just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not good (or at least accepted as good) art. I can't stand Cy Twombly for instance, - but that's my problem. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynamehere Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 If you go on this walk I think all will be revealed.anyhow you can ask questions and vent 😉https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/street-art-walk-tickets-80892903853?fbclid=IwAR31ctmLOxH7ylNf6YkVyyZDUZRBLu4TapKl93z6--UcBOlSO-dlJ9wPPfUDulwich Picture Gallery Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 mynamehere Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If you go on this walk I think all will be> revealed.anyhow you can ask questions and vent> 😉> > https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/street-art-walk-tic> kets-80892903853?fbclid=IwAR31ctmLOxH7ylNf6YkVyyZD> UZRBLu4TapKl93z6--UcBOlSO-dlJ9wPPfU> > Dulwich Picture GalleryI went on one of these walks some years back, with Ingrid Beazley (R.I.P.) and if memory serves it only covered the street art which was based on pictures at the gallery.It may have changed, of course, but I guess even if it hasn't maybe they will know something about this mural. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/241139-mural-in-north-cross-road/page/2/#findComment-1382399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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