Who to vote for?

[Blah Blah]

Momentum do not have any flag to be fair, and while many old time militant types are drawn to it, many more are other members are not old enough to remember who Militant were. Lansman imposed the rule that to be a member of Momentum, you also had to be a member of the Labour Party, precisely to try and keep out those old time expelled members. Some local groups ignored the rule. Momentum is a bit more diverse than those on the outside realise. It is certainly not stuffed with Stalinists but nor is it a truly democratic organisation either. That is the problem. And that is why it is easy for militant types to power grab in the way they have.

[JohnL]

European Research Group have a logo too as do the young conservatives .

So do https://www.trg.org.uk/ who have been around for years and which Boris claims to support

[TheCat]

I genuinely don't know how Emily Thornbury thinks she has a shot at the leadership. And if she actually does have real shot, then I clearly know even less than that.

In addition to her embarrassing performances anytime I've ever seen her interviewed. Her clear and evidential disdain for 'traditional' labour voters is pretty unavoidable....

[Blah Blah]

Mahoody. of course Momentum have a logo, like pretty much every organisation does. So what? I was responding to the false claim that Momentum had a flag with a hammer and sickle on it. At least try to follow the logic of the conversation!

As for entryism, of course it is a problem. But how can an expelled member of the Labour Party also be a member of Momentum. The answer is they can't. That is the point.

The Tory Party have also suffered the problem of entryism. UKIP members have been encouraged to join the Tories for two years now, to help Boris become leader. So both parties are being taken over by factional interests that do not represent a majority consensus, and that is a preptty dire place for UK politics to be in.

[diable rouge]

JohnL Wrote:

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> European Research Group have a logo too as do the

> young conservatives .

The ERG are funded by tax payers money, funny how the alt-righters on here never complain about that...

[seenbeen]

As soon as Xmas is over they will start the Mayoral election canvassing and the other UK parish and council elections...so who to vote for carries on, surely?

[Seabag]

seenbeen Wrote:

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> As soon as Xmas is over they will start the

> Mayoral election canvassing and the other UK

> parish and council elections...so who to vote for

> carries on, surely?

Then The Voice starts again

So this thread looks set for immortality

[diable rouge]

It's Bob Buzzard's fault, I wouldn't mind but he's a fooking construct!

Joyeux No?l ? tous...

[Spartacus]

Happy Christmas one and all

Peace and goodwill to all (including politician's, constructs and everyone in this discussion) see you after Christmas day

[BrandNewGuy]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> It's Bob Buzzard's fault, I wouldn't mind but he's

> a fooking construct!

Bot Buzzard

[Sue]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > It's Bob Buzzard's fault, I wouldn't mind but

> he's

> > a fooking construct!

>

> Bot Buzzard

:)) :)) :))

[JohnL]

Mahoody Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > European Research Group have a logo too as do

> the

> > young conservatives .

> >

> > So do https://www.trg.org.uk/ who have been

> around

> > for years and which Boris claims to support

>

> You are confusing TRG with ERG.

I meant them both (trg on the left and erg on the right)

But could have written that better lol - early wine :)

[Captain Marvel]

Merry Christmas celia

[Bob Buzzard]

Boun Natale - I said to Mrs Bob today we should tidy the front garden over the holidays, so it's as neat and tidy as the neighbours' have theirs.

[Hemingway]

You can always get the gardener in to thoroughly inspect her front garden again Bob

[carlafindle]

Hemingway Wrote:

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> You can always get the gardener in to thoroughly

> inspect her front garden again Bob

Not forgetting the back passage.

[teddyboy23]

That could be a pain in the arse

[TheArtfulDogger]

It's always nice to see a well maintained bush out front

[dulwichbloke]

cella Wrote:

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> Apart from the repulsive spouting on here, loving

> the notion that you tinies assume gender! Makes

> the inherent mysogony harder to restrain for you

> lot I guess.

Sorry, I'm not following, I know this post was directed at someone else, but whose gender are you are referring to as being assumed, Marcella?

[Seabag]

Oh blimey, this thread?s like Jacko?s ?Killer? video, where the zombies rise.

It?s dying, leave it be.

[JohnL]

The world is in danger, Boris is on holiday so who do all weary eyes turn to .. Dominic Raab.

[uncleglen]

JohnL Wrote:

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> The world is in danger, Boris is on holiday so who

> do all weary eyes turn to .. Dominic Raab.

Some of you lefties remind me of arch lefty Donnachadh McCarthy ex-Southwark councillor for Peckham. As soon as one of the Tory councillors spoke about some issue in their area he actually said 'I don't know anything about this but I am against whatever he said'..... Dominic Raab is actually Foreign Secretary and has spent 20 years in the foreign office as well as other relevant qualifications...I expect you would prefer that other ex-foreign office employee James Abbott Thompson!

[Seabag]

JohnL Wrote:

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> The world is in danger, Boris is on holiday so who

> do all weary eyes turn to .. Dominic Raab.

Is this the missing line out of the Ghostbusters song?

[JohnL]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> in the foreign office as well as other relevant

> qualifications...I expect you would prefer that

> other ex-foreign office employee James Abbott

> Thompson!

On Raab what you say is exactly the opposite of what this Oxford Politics lecturer and former attache says LOL :)

On James Abbott Thompson he's quite obviously and sadly mentally ill and if they can't care for him in the community they need something akin to the old hospitals (I worked in one near Swansea as IT staff in the early 90s and there were 100s of people that had been there years resident - wonder where they are now). I guess he'll be found incapable of pleading.

[diable rouge]

Would this be the same Dominic Raab who didn't quite understand how reliant UK trade is on the Dover-Calais crossing?...