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micromacromonkey Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > doogleflip Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > In our company we have had 2 vans broken into

> > and

> > > tools stolen from the back. One attempted

> break

> > in

> > > with holes drilled into the back doors. One

> set

> > of

> > > ladders stolen off the roof bars and this

> > morning,

> > > one of our engineers woke up to discover his

> > front

> > > window smashed and sat nav / bag stolen.

> > >

> > > All of these incidents have happened over the

> > last

> > > 12 months. We're a family business. This is

> > really

> > > upsetting.

> >

> >

> > Obviously I'm very sorry to hear this, and I

> > really don't want to sound unsympathetic, but

> > surely vans should be emptied of bags, tools,

> > satnavs etc at night?

> >

> > That's why you often see notices on vans "no

> tools

> > left in this vehicle overnight", as otherwise

> > these (expletive deleteds) will break in on the

> > offchance.

>

> And women with short skirts are asking for it?



That is completely different. As I'm sure you realise.

Sue Wrote:

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> micromacromonkey Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Sue Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > doogleflip Wrote:

> > >

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> >

> > > -----

> > > > In our company we have had 2 vans broken

> into

> > > and

> > > > tools stolen from the back. One attempted

> > break

> > > in

> > > > with holes drilled into the back doors. One

> > set

> > > of

> > > > ladders stolen off the roof bars and this

> > > morning,

> > > > one of our engineers woke up to discover

> his

> > > front

> > > > window smashed and sat nav / bag stolen.

> > > >

> > > > All of these incidents have happened over

> the

> > > last

> > > > 12 months. We're a family business. This is

> > > really

> > > > upsetting.

> > >

> > >

> > > Obviously I'm very sorry to hear this, and I

> > > really don't want to sound unsympathetic, but

> > > surely vans should be emptied of bags, tools,

> > > satnavs etc at night?

> > >

> > > That's why you often see notices on vans "no

> > tools

> > > left in this vehicle overnight", as otherwise

> > > these (expletive deleteds) will break in on

> the

> > > offchance.

> >

> > And women with short skirts are asking for it?

>

>

> That is completely different. As I'm sure you

> realise.


No, it is the same. It's called victim blaming. Crime is the fault of the perpetrator, not the victim.

Why is "Remove valuables from vehicles overnight" victim-blaming, while "turn off keyless entry" is not?


Drawing a comparison with either of these, and the profoundly offensive suggestion that women should dress a certain way to avoid attention, is really pushing it, even by this forum's sometimes bizarre standards.


(BTW, I agree with the precaution of removing valuables from vehicles.. but as a piece of advice, it's of limited value in hindsight)

  • 2 weeks later...
I was sitting in a people carrier (with obscure windows) on Underhill Road by the parade of shops last night when s.o. tried to break into the back. About 20 mins earlier had been badly hassled by a very aggressive man demanding money the minute I had stepped out of the car. Moved to ED in 1987, can't remember it was like this around SE22 - although SE15 was if anything worse then.
Glad to hear that you're reporting this. It's really useful if residents report all types of crime, even if the police can't do anything directly, as intel and statistics affect how police resources are deployed and targeted. If a particular pattern evolves, the local police can request that the borough patrol cars are diverted down here. Some police community meetings are frustrating because it looks like crime levels are low in East Dulwich, precisely because residents are too frustrated to report, so our stats appear low.

If you've got keyless entry or a remote key fob where you press button to unlock I recommend buying a 'car key signal blocker pouch' from eBay to stop criminals being able to transmit the signal from your key fob. It happened quite a few times before we got them, not once since.


In the meantime I believe keeping keys in the fridge or wrapped in tin foil has the same effect.

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