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Now guys, Louisa does have a fair point. We all know deep down that wanting to live in a place where the streets aren?t paved in dog shit and the pubs aren?t violent dives with cracked windows is not society trying to better itself but rather a contrived plot to persecute her.

Louisa how was your evening in the poncey Sea Cow surrounded by middle class organic Salmon munchers? Must have been hell, but perhaps the free glass of wine helped.


Oh, I geddit!! You're fishing for a freebie at The Palmerston! What's next, Franklins?

Brendan Wrote:

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> Now guys, Louisa does have a fair point. We all

> know deep down that wanting to live in a place

> where the streets aren?t paved in dog shit and the

> pubs aren?t violent dives with cracked windows is

> not society trying to better itself but rather a

> contrived plot to persecute her.


xxxxxx


:)):)):))

With all that's said about the Palmerston and Franklins, I really enjoy drinking in both of them and never feel uncomfortable or that i'm getting in the way of diners. I quite often spend lazy, post-shopping, saturday afternoons/ early evenings over a few pints and the papers, and sometimes a plate of black pudding on toast (no rocket though! (6) )


Just before new year i was having a drink with several friends in the palmerston and we were made very welcome by the manager, he found us a large table for our group, despite making it very clear that we had no intention of eating there.


I can't remember which famous poncey foodie said it but the mark of a good "gastropub" (i hate that word) is that you will not be sniffed at for popping in for drinks only. IME both venues pass the test on that criteria.

I know jimbo, just angling for a freebie. In my view Franklins can do little wrong.

But it's not a pub. I will pop in for a glass of wine or even a pint with papers, but it's still not a pub

And the Palmerston has occasionally gone out of its way to make me feeling uncomfortable for mistaking it for a pub.


I ended up banning myself from there, which is a pity as I hear the food is actually really rather good.

I agree with you mockers, The Palmerston is definitely NOT a pub, I've stood up at the bar before and felt like I was waiting for a table. Franklins on the other hand is OK to pop into for a pint. I went in there yesterday at about 6:30, sat down, pint, read the paper, fine. Admittedly I didn't the sofa which was a bit annoying, but it was fine. They also do a cup of builders tea if you ask them, which is something I am desperate for the CPT to do.
oh bring back the days when the Palmerston had a fab reputation. Unfortunately I never got to experience it for being "underage". It used to be big for sports, in particular footie. U never needed to watch it on the telly when you could hear those in the Palmerston "ahhhh", "ooooooh" "boooooooo" and "yaaaaay!" and relevent places in the match *sighs*

"oh bring back the days when the Palmerston had a fab reputation"


Yes it was a good pub. But now it's also a good restaurant. reputation intact on both accounts.


TBH I think we're really lucky to live in ED with the selection in and around the area to suit most tastes and wallets.


Only thing missing would be a real country pub with low beam ceilings, antique farm tools, horse brasses and proper farmhouse fare.

Perhaps we should redevelop the CPT (Country-Peckham-Tavern) and supply it with vegetables grown on the nearby allotments and local livestock from CWALD's back garden.

jke Wrote:

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> I agree with you mockers, The Palmerston is

> definitely NOT a pub, .

> Franklins on the other hand is OK to pop into for

> a pint. I went in there yesterday at about 6:30,

> sat down, pint, read the paper, fine. Admittedly I

> didn't the sofa which was a bit annoying, but it

> was fine. They also do a cup of builders tea if

> you ask them, which is something I am desperate

> for the CPT to do.



???


"The Palmerston is NOT a pub"

Last time I looked they had draft beers, hand pumped real ale, a bar where you can go for drinks, banquet seating, traditional pub furniture, you can go just for a drink, beautiful original wood panelling... if its NOT a pub jke, what is it? (Don't say its a restaurant just cos it serves food and doesn't have gaming machines / Sky Sports - its a gastro pub. Might not be to everyone's taste - but a pub is what it most definitely is)


"I've stood up at the bar

before and felt like I was waiting for a table"

Were you waiting for a table? Can't you relax standing at a bar? I don't geddit...


"Franklins on the other hand is OK to pop into for

> a pint. I went in there yesterday at about 6:30,

> sat down, pint, read the paper, fine."

So, thats a pub then? I've done the same at the Palmerston...


"They also do a cup of builders tea if

> you ask them, which is something I am desperate

> for the CPT to do"

Hold on a minute... are we confusing pubs with Greasy Spoon Cafes here?


The Palmerston is great... not the best pub in the world - but a gem to have on our doorstep. A PROPER gastro pub with a decent, imaginative menu... most pubs refer to themselves as "gastro" if they knock together a steak sandwich or gourmet bangers & mash... but the Palmerston is what a good gastro pub should be. Excellent but homely food in proper pub surroundings.


Might just pop in for lunch now!


(Or just a pint)

not sure why anyone would dismiss the Palmerston as Crap. As a pub it's possible to have a few beers still but I can see why for many people it doesn't work any more


But as a place to eat good food (as in food you don't cook at home normally and the stuff that you would is of a very hight quality) and drink I would say it's well up there

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