Recommendations for personal shoppers

[El Pibe]

Indeed RD, if it's hip to be cool, that's surely a very very bad thing.

 

[red devil]

dulwichgirl2 Wrote:

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> A change of direction.

> If my husband finds a pair of trousers he likes

> (cords or chinos), he immediately goes back online

> (whence they came) and orders another five pairs.

>

>

> Now this is a very sensible but, at the same time,

> totally "wrong"...Isn't it?

...only if then asks you to sew his name tag on the inside of the waistband

[dulwichgirl2]

Red devil, I have enough name tags to sew for three children thanks. Shades of my mother's life for 13 years....

[Undisputedtruth]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Indeed RD, if it's hip to be cool, that's surely a

> very very bad thing.

>

Those images are awful and not akin to my style. Think David Beckham and Brad Pitt, but better.

[Jeremy]

red devil Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> > I don't give a toss about what's cool. But the

> one

> > thing that we almost certainly have in common

> is

> > that we are both, quite clearly, hopelessly

> > uncool.

>

> Yeah, but it's cool to be be uncool...

No. I am terminally uncool.

But I realise that and am comfortable with myself. Which is clearly better than acting like a wally, desperately trying to convince other people how cool you, your music, your clothes, and your friends are.

[maxxi]

Jeremy Wrote:

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...the one

> thing that we almost certainly have in common is

> that we are both, quite clearly, hopelessly

> uncool.

But uncool is the new cool Jeremy - until so many of the uncool join the 'circle' so as to make them the majority (or one of the significant minorities) whereupon they then become uncool again.

Like a stopped clock, if one never changes one will probably be cool at least twice in ones life - one just may not know it at the time.

[red devil]

...will the 70's hurry up and come back in fashion then

[helena handbasket]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTmpKgocyYg

Except it isn't 1987. And UDT isn't a teenage girl. *Maybe*

[Moos]

Oh my God. It's making want to claw out my own eyeballs.

[giggirl]

What a shameful thread this is. The OP appears to have deactivated herself from the forum (her account no longer exists) and I don't blame her. She started a thread asking for perfectly reasonable advice and she got laughed at and sneered at. Five pages of car crash nonsense. I just read the whole thing beginning to end. None of you look cool.

[Undisputedtruth]

I don't blame her either. I gave some helpful direction to Ms B as I have an interest in fashion/style but can you honestly say that the likes of Hugo, Jeremy, Red Devil, and El Pibe do? I don't think so.

Ms B refered to these small core of people as trying to bigging themselves up on a forum. Enuff said.

[Jeremy]

giggirl, I guess you are primarily talking about me.

The thread was effectively ruined by the time I came along, thanks to a certain other user's bizarre, attention-seeking boasts. If it had been entirely on-topic, I probably wouldn't have got involved.

However, most men find it incomprehensible that anyone could get "exhausted" at the thought of buying a couple of outfits, and my post was intended to reflect this in a light-hearted way. I regret using language which obviously upset Ms B (and I did PM her to try and straighten it out), but I stick by the gist of what I said. Shameful? I am not ashamed at all.

[Otta]

I think MsB took way too much offence by sugesting she was being bullied by Jeremy. Very sad that she has felt the need to deactivate her account, but a bit over sensetive.

[Undisputedtruth]

Typical blame strategies, Jeremy.

My post was geared to offering some help to Ms B.

None of the small core group had any good reason for joining the discussion.

[Alan Medic]

Stating you had too much knowledge of the subject UDT, that you have been asked to leave shops, suggests to me you shouldn't have bothered joining the discussion either.

[Jeremy]

UDT, please let me try to offer you some impartial assistance:

Potentially useful:

> I'll give the departmental shopping assistants a miss as they are nothing more than glorified sales assistants

> latest collections are just a marketing tool to sell more clothes

Weird:

> I'll probably could offer an expert shopper service for men given my knowledge of fashion

> Six months later, fashion late comers David Beckham & Brad Pitt also bought the same pair

> I usually spend anywhere between ?100 to ?280 on jeans.

> Last year, I was asked to model by a stylist teaching one of her students

> just yesterday I received a free spanner in the post after I complained to the manufacturer

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta Wrote:

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> I think MsB took way too much offence by sugesting

> she was being bullied by Jeremy. Very sad that she

> has felt the need to deactivate her account, but a

> bit over sensetive.

I think it's a shame too. For me, I refused to be bullied off a forum because of the same small core of people having self-esteem issues. In life there will always be someone better than you so deal with it.

I think more people will question the likes of Jeremy about the value of his opinions and judgments too.

If Jeremy thinks my posts affects his self-esteem then the answer is don't read them. No one forced him to join this thread and is not as if he could shed further light on fashion/style. Jeremy thinks my posts are weird because simply he doesn't know any better.

@AM, I was asked to leave two shops because their staff had low self-esteem issues. It has nothing to do with my behaviour and certainly does not exclude me from joining this thread to give advice. In fact, another person I knew, also complained about this person's behaviour in one of the two questionable shops.

[red devil]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> I don't blame her either. I gave some helpful

> direction to Ms B as I have an interest in

> fashion/style but can you honestly say that the

> likes of Hugo, Jeremy, Red Devil, and El Pibe do?

> I don't think so.

>

> Ms B refered to these small core of people as

> trying to bigging themselves up on a forum. Enuff

> said.

Actually UDT, MsB didn't refer to a 'small core of people bigging themselves up', you did.

She did however comment on your 'helpful directiom', which she described as, quote ''...bizarre posturings...'' ...hardly a glowing reference.

[Undisputedtruth]

She definitely did say 'small core of people bigging themselves up', but the thread has been deleted since.

[Jeremy]

UDT, I have no desire to attempt to bully you, or push you off the forum.

But in my years on this forum, I've only come across one person who openly claims to be better than others. That person is you. So I'm afraid you will have to expect some backlash from the objects of your condescension.

[Undisputedtruth]

My posts has hardly killed anyone. So grow up.

[KidKruger]

Dispute my superiority = Self-esteem issues

[Undisputedtruth]

I've never said I was superior in any one of my posts. It's the low self-esteem that are saying it.

[giggirl]

I grant you that it is unpaletable that UDT has staked a claim on the moral high-ground when his posts have been so self-serving and not remotely helpful to the OP or anyone else.

My comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, Jeremy. It was aimed at everyone who hijacked the thread and turned it into a pissing contest.

Jeremy, normally I think your posts are sound and your opinions balanced, but this is not your finest hour. I get that you found the OP's request "incomprehensible". It's OK not to understand something but ignorange is not a virtue and I think your comments to her were off. I would ask you to accept that there are other forum users, myself included, that thought her ask was perfectly resasonable.

I understand that UDT winds a lot of people up. He doesn't wind me up because I won't engage with him. I only read this thread because another forumite mentioned it to me this morning.

This isn't the first and won't be the last thread to be hijaked. Sometimes that can be amusing but all you had to do was take the temperature of this thread as early as the top of page 2 to know that this wasn't going to be one of those fun times.

I feel sad that the OP has closed her account. That's all I wanted to say. She obviously had her reasons and I don't think it's anybody's place to call her "over sensitive" or whatever was said. It's a brave person who comes on this forum these days asking for advice.

[Undisputedtruth]

Sorry giggirl but it was the neutrals who paved my claim to the moral high ground. Ms B even chipped in on my defence in the UDT thread.

I think my post has been helpful with the stylist suggestion and I feel vindicated when Moos also presented the case for one as well.

Moving on, in life I've been called lots of things but one thing for certain, the common denominators are that these people don't know any better or have low self-esteem issues. I click with people who are very knowledgeable and highly capable.

I also remember Marmora Man asking for advice on shaving http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,886041,894698#msg-894698, yet it *Bob* decided to ambushed the thread and followed by the usual core of people. Can you honestly say that these core of people offered real advice, Giggygirl?