Bonfires

[Alexthecamel]

Just don?t. Please. Top of Court Lane/ Lordship lane. Massively antisocial and dangerous when we?re in the midst of a respiratory pandemic.

[nxjen]

Totally agree. Someone in the North Cross Road area was using a wood burning stove or something similar. Please think of those who have respiratory problems at the best of times.

[Nigello]

Re the bonfire - Report to the fire brigade - please. They?ll treat it more seriously than in normal times. It?s very irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

[Alexthecamel]

It?s either gone out or was possibly a barbecue. Phew.

[seenbeen]

Yes- this is the problem with people who do not THINK about anyone except their stupid selves

[chryssie]

I am amazed that bonfires are allowed at any time especially in built up areas. Users of the allotments on Rosendale Road seem to particularly enjoy lighting them on days when the weather is lovely and everyone wants to be outside. Add to this the trend for wood burning stoves and we have a problem! Why have these issues not been addressed when we?ve introduced the ULEZ?

[seenbeen]

chryssie Wrote:

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> I am amazed that bonfires are allowed at any time

> especially in built up areas. Users of the

> allotments on Rosendale Road seem to particularly

> enjoy lighting them on days when the weather is

> lovely and everyone wants to be outside. Add to

> this the trend for wood burning stoves and we have

> a problem! Why have these issues not been

> addressed when we?ve introduced the ULEZ?

There are strict rules about bonfires in all London boroughs and they have been in place for decades. Wood burning stoves have to be DEFRA approved- i.e. they filter out everything harmful. Barbecues are already known to create air pollution

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/01/typical-barbecue-bad-planet-90-mile-car-journey-scientists-warn/

But as we all know and have seen there is a hard core of people who will do what they want, when they want...the Queen said yesterday something about how, when we look back at the crisis, were we found wanting...although those that are found wanting won't give a fig anyway.

Also there are people in Southwark who have objected to paying for the garden waste bin and how will they get rid of their garden waste?

[colville09]

Speaking as an allotment sharer on the Rosendale site there are strict time limits on when you can bonfires (Nov till March I seem to recall) and above all the allotments strive to be good neighbours. It hosts plots for local schools and community groups among other things as well as increasing bio diversity in the area. If you experience problems, contact the site officers who will help you.

[Sue]

nxjen Wrote:

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> Totally agree. Someone in the North Cross Road

> area was using a wood burning stove or something

> similar. Please think of those who have

> respiratory problems at the best of times.

Agree.

I smelled that too, and I have asthma.

[seenbeen]

Sue Wrote:

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> nxjen Wrote:

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> > Totally agree. Someone in the North Cross Road

> > area was using a wood burning stove or

> something

> > similar. Please think of those who have

> > respiratory problems at the best of times.

>

>

> Agree.

>

> I smelled that too, and I have asthma.

There is a whole thread on this going back

https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,2005087,2030557#msg-2030557

[yeknomyeknom]

The science says air pollution is linked to a spike in the coronavirus death rate, so bonfires, bbqs and log burners simply should not be used at this particular time.

[bels123]

Yes, emerging evidence links air pollution to worsened COVID-19 outcomes.

COVID-19 is a respiratory disease so it makes sense not to burn anything which might make breathing harder.

[goldilocks]

I was really surprised to smell woodsmoke on Sunday evening when I went out. It was cool enough to wear a light coat but not cold. Shows that people are still viewing ?lighting the woodburner? as a fun wholesome activity. In case it has passed you by, it isn?t, it?s releasing dangerous carcinogenic fumes for your family and your neighbours and it?s even more unacceptable in a respiratory disease pandemic!

[seenbeen]

goldilocks Wrote:

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> I was really surprised to smell woodsmoke on

> Sunday evening when I went out. It was cool enough

> to wear a light coat but not cold. Shows that

> people are still viewing ?lighting the woodburner?

> as a fun wholesome activity. In case it has passed

> you by, it isn?t, it?s releasing dangerous

> carcinogenic fumes for your family and your

> neighbours and it?s even more unacceptable in a

> respiratory disease pandemic!

BBQs are just as bad if not worse....we all live practically on top of each other in London- there is no need to make other peoples' lives a misery

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ban-wood-coal-bonfire-burning-during-the-pandemic-to-improve-respiratory-health

[goldilocks]

Totally agree that charcoal bbqs are also an antisocial idea now (and generally). The only saving grace is duration of burning, usually it?s not on for hours and hours. Anyway- short answer is that burning any solid fuel now is a bad thing. If you want to bbq, gas is more socially acceptable though!

[ReclaimedBrickPaths]

Bollox

[malumbu]

Nothing like a good occasional bonfire or BBQ providing (a) you've got the space (b) weather conditions and timing right - later on a nice sunny day with a little breeze so flames and smoke go up © it is occasional

Same criticisms here could be made against fireworks, which are now far more common than years ago but add to pollution. But we wouldn't want to ban them would we.

Understand the sentiment though where it is unsocial, washing has been left out etc etc. My neighbour used to burn wet grass.

[seenbeen]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Nothing like a good occasional bonfire or BBQ

> providing (a) you've got the space (b) weather

> conditions and timing right - later on a nice

> sunny day with a little breeze so flames and smoke

> go up © it is occasional

>

> Same criticisms here could be made against

> fireworks, which are now far more common than

> years ago but add to pollution. But we wouldn't

> want to ban them would we.

>

> Understand the sentiment though where it is

> unsocial, washing has been left out etc etc. My

> neighbour used to burn wet grass.

a) No one has the space in London

b) very unlikely

c) yes but it might be 'occasional for everyone there it is permanent for someone who doesn't do it on environmental grounds

as for fireworks just take the money up the end of your massive garden and put it on your bonfire!

[malumbu]

Nothing like a good occasional bonfire or BBQ providing (a) you've got the space (b) weather conditions and timing right - later on a nice sunny day with a little breeze so flames and smoke go up © it is occasional

Same criticisms here could be made against fireworks, which are now far more common than years ago but add to pollution. But we wouldn't want to ban them would we.

Understand the sentiment though where it is unsocial, washing has been left out etc etc. My neighbour used to burn wet grass.