P13/484 bus rear door only trial

[Bic Basher]

From Friday 10th April, as part of a two week TfL trial to increase bus driver protection from COVID-19, passengers on routes P13 and 484, along with other bus routes operated by Abellio's Walworth bus garage will only allow passengers to exit and enter using the rear door only.

During this trial, passengers won't have to touch in using Oyster or Contactless.

[dbboy]

Right so it's going to become a FREE bus service? Who pays in the long term for this??

[Laur]

With the escalating number of London bus drivers dying from COVID 19 it's about time something was done to try and protect them.

Their health has no price.

[dbboy]

yeah, I don't disagree agree with you, move the smart reader to the middle of the bus then.

[Paulie herne hill]

Are you for real do you dboy?? I honestly think there a lot more to worry about than a few unpaid fares , you probably don?t even use buses , who cares we are all going to have to pay more tax , i for one have no issue with forking out a little more when this is all over

[rupert james]

In all honesty I doubt if they will even notice if people dont pay.

The number 12 from Oxford Circus to Peckham or the other way round is not known as the charity bus for nothing.

Nobody pays. Next time when you use the bus in better times just look and take note.

The drivers need to be better looked after, As Khan's father was a bus driver you would have thought he would have taken better care of them.

[ctovey]

My grandson's mother is a bus driver and his dad (my son) works on the Underground. Any measures that keep them safer, whatever the cost, is ok with me

[dbboy]

Yes, I AM for real and YES I do use the buses.

If you can afford and want to pay more tax good on you, but don't expect everyone to be on whatever you earn.

Paulie herne hill Wrote:

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> Are you for real do you dboy?? I honestly think

> there a lot more to worry about than a few unpaid

> fares , you probably don?t even use buses , who

> cares we are all going to have to pay more tax , i

> for one have no issue with forking out a little

> more when this is all over

[Paulie herne hill]

Something wrong with you pal , bus drivers are dying , who cares about a few people not paying bus fares ?? Your not even worth trying to reason with , seriously mate am lost for words

[dbboy]

Nothing wrong with me pal.

Yes they are dying, have you had pneumonia or seen how it kills, I promise you it's horrible to experience first hand,

HAVE you ever seen a loved one on NIV {non invasive ventilation), I have and it ain't nice to see or pleasant for the person receiving the treatment. I've probably experienced and seen things you never have and that would make you shiver if I shared them with you, so before you get all high and mighty and start trying to lecture, I suggest you wind it in

[Paulie herne hill]

If that?s the case, why worry about a few people not paying bus fares? Your just being petty end of convo

[FineWhine]

for goodness sake... get a grip who gives a toss about some blinking bus fares in this time...

[siousxiesue]

FineWhine Wrote:

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> for goodness sake... get a grip who gives a toss

> about some blinking bus fares in this time...

Agreed!

Unbelievable. The number of people actually on buses is negligible, and if it's solely keyworkers, I don't give a toss if it's free for them. Bigger issues to worry about.

[dbboy]

How about those that have to rely on the bus to do their weekly shop as it's the only way to get around. Try not being so high and mighty.

[Paulie herne hill]

Seriously what is your problem with a few people getting a free bus ride ??? You got to be a wind up merchant!

[dbboy]

Well, it certainly seems to effectively wind you up. You can go now.

[gromit316]

when are they gonna put a screen up so you can't stand near the driver. I saw a bus today and it just had sellotape going around the hand rails to the stairs.

[Bic Basher]

rupert james Wrote:

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> In all honesty I doubt if they will even notice if

> people dont pay.

>

> The number 12 from Oxford Circus to Peckham or the

> other way round is not known as the charity bus

> for nothing.

>

> Nobody pays. Next time when you use the bus in

> better times just look and take note.

>

> The drivers need to be better looked after, As

> Khan's father was a bus driver you would have

> thought he would have taken better care of them.

It's no longer the charity bus, they changed it so everyone has to get on the front door and exit from the other two doors in March.

[gromit316]

if you don't pay it's at your own risk, you never know when a transport officer will be checking fares.

[Bic Basher]

gromit3:16 Wrote:

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> if you don't pay it's at your own risk, you never

> know when a transport officer will be checking

> fares.

They're currently not working on buses either due to social distancing.

[gromit316]

the buses were empty when you had to get on the front for the past couple of weeks. The buses going through Peckham are now packed again since you now have to go through the back door and no one is paying.

[Bic Basher]

gromit3:16 Wrote:

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> the buses were empty when you had to get on the

> front for the past couple of weeks. The buses

> going through Peckham are now packed again since

> you now have to go through the back door and no

> one is paying.

Since when? I was at DKH this afternoon and a P13 was empty going to Streatham. Regardless of the 'free' ride.

[gromit316]

the buses were packed in Peckham on Tuesday at about 11am, today they were empty again.

[Jules-and-Boo]

People are really not very bright are they, if they're going out just to cruise the buses now they are free.

The buses are running so key workers can get to work - and people who have to travel are able to.

Travelling to work is one of the highest risk of catching the virus.

I think TfL have more important things to think about than fares at the moment.

Having said that, maybe they should increase the fares for all travel, unless you can prove you need to take your journey.

[Bic Basher]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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>

> I think TfL have more important things to think

> about than fares at the moment.

>

> Having said that, maybe they should increase the

> fares for all travel, unless you can prove you

> need to take your journey.

I don't see any benefit in increasing fares either, Most people are using the buses sensibly during the lockdown, only using them for essential journeys. Raising fares won't fill the loss of revenue with such low numbers using them.