man befriending child in peckham rye park

[Worker]

Come on, your only description of the car or driver prior to you saying you asked to be let out was that it was covered in gay porn. It seems entirely reasonable for readers to conclude that that was what made you uncomfortable. Best man up and admit it; Lord knows I'd be put off by a car decorated in porn of any type.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> ffs, it has nothing to do with him being gay, it's

> about how getting into a stranger's car is a

> massively unkonwn quantity where you effectively

> lose control of the situation.

> Can be risky as an adult, it's an unthinkable step

> to allow a child to take.

>

> I'll be sure to spell everything out in big

> coloured letters for those of you incapable of

> parsing anything without leaping for the

> politically incorrect button. Idiots, no wonder I

> usually skulk in the lounge, at least they're

> generally a bit brighter in there.

[KidKruger]

Nothing wrong with the way El Pibe described his experience. Give it a rest.

Fools trying to pick on his comments - God knows how you manage a conversation down the pub (presuambly you act better to avoid looking stupid in real-life).

[the-e-dealer]

Nah they all go to Biffa Bscon's Pub. Fighting all night!

[Worker]

Why descend to insults, kids? We disagree, big deal. Or are you saying you never pick on someone else's comments?

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Nothing wrong with the way El Pibe described his

> experience. Give it a rest.

> Fools trying to pick on his comments - God knows

> how you manage a conversation down the pub

> (presuambly you act better to avoid looking stupid

> in real-life).

[KidKruger]

difference between disagreeing with a comment someone makes and making out he has a problem with 'gay', which is what a couple of posters have tried to do.

[El Pibe]

Indeed. Don't worry KK, I've been around long enough to know how people operate on the forum.

It's irksome to be misinterpreted but I don't feel the need to shout out my homophilic credentials.

Thanks to you, saffron and civilservant for the reasonable vote of support though, appreciated.

Worker, I refer you to my comment of 11:29 "The nature of the porn was incidental to my concern about the situation..."

[Champ]

Good one civilservant, so do you consider all homosexuals predators or only the ones that decorate their vehicles with porn?

Oh yes, and how terribly brave it was of El Pibe to admit to his traumatising experience. Top man.

[El Pibe]

Don't rise to it civilservant, Champ is a known troll.

[Huguenot]

*giggles*

[Ridgley]

The problem is nowadays strangers are not necessarily strangers to a child it could be a friend of the parents a teacher or family member which is usually the case. When my daughter was young I would always say to her that if someone approaches her even family and family friends before she goes anywhere with them is to ask them what her favourite teddy bear?s name.

Now she is a teenager if she is in trouble we also have a code word when she is phoning me. All we can do is to try and educate our children the best we can and hope they will take it on board.

[edcam]

Champ Wrote:

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> Good one civilservant, so do you consider all

> homosexuals predators or only the ones that

> decorate their vehicles with porn?

>

> Oh yes, and how terribly brave it was of El Pibe

> to admit to his traumatising experience. Top man.

Indeed generally those who moan about people being PC have some rather dodgy opinions, as demonstrated above.

[Worker]

Well yes, you did post that after your first post on your ride in the golden Audi, but my post was simply pointing out that it's not an unreasonable conclusion from your first post that you had a problem with the gay porn plastering the inside of this golden Audi. I would have.

Not sure where I've accused you of homophobia or why my post desevess the response it got, but it's easy to misinterpret comments on this forum, eh?

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Indeed. Don't worry KK, I've been around long

> enough to know how people operate on the forum.

> It's irksome to be misinterpreted but I don't feel

> the need to shout out my homophilic credentials.

>

> Thanks to you, saffron and civilservant for the

> reasonable vote of support though, appreciated.

>

> Worker, I refer you to my comment of 11:29 "The

> nature of the porn was incidental to my concern

> about the situation..."

[El Pibe]

Worker the bottom bit concerned you, I was politely pointing you to where I had already clarified any possible misundersstanding, the first bit was for edcam who as you can see above is still accusing me of exactly that.

[Jeremy]

Loz Wrote:

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> Which is why I said "By all means warn your kids

> of the danger" - that was the bit you cut out for

> some reason.

I didn't cut anything out, I just highlighted your lightning analogy to demonstrate that a "better safe than sorry" approach is often best, in various circumstances. Of course you're right, paranoia is helpful to nobody.

[Worker]

Who gets into a golden Audi anyway? It's either going to be a drug dealer or a perv.

[El Pibe]

Now you tell me ;)

I was young and naive and had been waiting at that roundabout for a very long time, what can I say.

My hitchiking advice, if someone in Exeter says 'I can take you as far as the Gloucester junction' say no!!!

[civilservant]

I'll keep that in mind next time I'm in Exeter ;0)

[StraferJack]

So THAT'S what it's called

[the-e-dealer]

Or jimmy savile

[henryb]

What if they say "I'll take you as far as Jimmy Savile" - don't get in!

[Loz]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> My hitchiking advice, if someone in Exeter says 'I can take you as far as the Gloucester junction'

> say no!!!

I think that may be a euphemism...

[david_carnell]

Who plasters the inside of their car with porn anyway? How would you change gear?

Was it an automatic Audi, MP?

[dulwichgirl2]

Ridgeley, the code word is a very good idea, thanks.

All, why do these things happen? Is it easy access to child porn on the Internet (god I shudder typing that) or more people out in the community who are a danger and should be in a hospital or less of a community "feel" these days? Whatever it is, the cocktail isn't a good one and the most vulnerable are suffering. As a digression, we are focussing on children because that is our age group. The elderly are also suffering more than in the past, again I think owing to the decline of the community. :-(

[Saffron]

Is it increasing, or are we simply more aware of it?

Actually, I read some interesting historical statistics. Interpersonal violence has been on a dramatic decline over the past few centuries, and has continued to decline into modern times.

However it has been noted that within this decline there are transient upswings influenced by multiple factors such as economy, politics, etc. This is probably attributable to good people doing bad things in times of duress.

Bad people will probably always try to do bad things, as reflected by the rates of profound mental disorders such as sociopathies being relative unchanged over time.

The issue about children "taking it on board" when parents try to educate them about dangerous individuals (be they strangers or otherwise) is only part of the story. No matter how well you teach your children, no matter how well they understand and attempt to apply these lessons, some truly evil people are very manipulative of children (and adults too!) and can manage to harm others despite our best efforts to educate and protect our children. That's what makes these scenarios so upsetting, IMHO. There is an element of them being out of our control.