An apology to all the mums (and dads) Of ED

[Moos]

We've had a moany post about a two year old incident citing toddlers in - gasp! - Pizza Express at 6pm on a Sunday, I think we have reached the apogee of anecdotal evidence.

This thread is starting to parody itself. Now, what other annoying groups of people can we start to include? Toddlers with dogs off lead? Single work-from-home cyclists? Let's do it!

[Otta]

The Pizza Express thing did make me laugh because their design always leads to a noisy acoustic. Plus they are very child friendly.

A place I'd always avoid if I wanted peace.

[Pickle]

Agree - if I was after a nice quiet meal for two pre-7pm in the weekend, Pizza Express would not be my restaurant of choice.

[StraferJack]

affluence may play a part but I think cultural reasons - a LOT more travel and wider diet of TV shows - have contributed much more to this

people eat out more and take kids out more because they have seen the rest of the world and prefer that to the relatively staid lifestyle which was the norm in the gloomy, wet islands congealed on the brink of the Atlantic pit

[Gidget]

Why do so many parents around here seem to think it is ok to cycle on the pavement with their children? I often see men and women cycling with their not even small children. Recently saw man with his son with about aged 11 and when I asked him why he said it was ok because he was with his son! This was on Grove Vale. Take your kids to the park to teach them to cycle and do not use the pavements.

[Otta]

"This thread is starting to parody itself. Now, what other annoying groups of people can we start to include? Toddlers with dogs off lead? Single work-from-home cyclists? Let's do it!"

I know I was being slightly mischeivious in sharing this thread with the Family Room, but I think it would genuinely be nice if we couold discuss certain things on this forum without every one with kids immediately going on the defencive, and everyone without kids immediately making sweeping statements about parents and kids.

Early posts from Nanny, Mike P, LondonMix and Pickle were refreshing to read, and reflect how I really feel as a parent who looks at the behaviour of some other parents as shocking.

[Otta]

Gidget, that's not just parents, I see quite a lot of people cycling on the pavement. This minority of cyclists much like a minority of parents give others a bad name.

[Gidget]

I know it's not just parents but when queried they say it's ok to do it as they are with their child. That means they know it is wrong but think it is somehow justified by being with a child - this is a new thing to me - new as in the last five years or so. Have child - break law and cause problems for pedestrians. What lesson is this teaching their child?

I think it is worth mentioning as perhaps there are a large number of other parents out there with children coming up to cycling age who somehow think this is acceptable behaviour.

[Chillaxed]

I doubt there's a large number of parents who think it's acceptable to cycle on the footpath with their little 'uns. Never seen it myself.

[Voyageur]

Otta Wrote:

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> The Pizza Express thing did make me laugh because

> their design always leads to a noisy acoustic.

> Plus they are very child friendly.

>

> A place I'd always avoid if I wanted peace.

I did say we knew we were beaten :) I love a good PE and the many we have been to in the past have had a good mix of ages if erring on the kiddy side, the Dulwich one was surreal though in being like one giant kids party, albeit the groupings were evidently separate.

We haven't been back and indeed won't in the future - no worries though as I am confident that they will remain packed to the gills.

[RosieH]

I have seen parents riding with their kids on the pavement, but not as many as I've seen cycling without kids.

For the record, for all adults who think it's ok to cycle on the pavement, I think it's ok to push you off your bike. Consider this fair warning.

Edited as I wasn't a fast enough typer, and my post didn't make sense.

[Otta]

Voyageur Wrote:

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> I did say we knew we were beaten :) I love a good

> PE and the many we have been to in the past have

> had a good mix of ages if erring on the kiddy

> side, the Dulwich one was surreal though in being

> like one giant kids party, albeit the groupings

> were evidently separate.

The Dulwich one is particularly child friendly. I remember going there once in my pre children life, so obviously I had a stinking hangover. After about 10 seconds in there I had to move outside. It was a cold day and spitting rain, but that was preferrable for my head that morning.

[Chillaxed]

Do it, RosieH!

RosieH Wrote:

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> I have seen parents riding with their kids on the

> pavement, but not as many as I've seen cycling

> without kids.

>

> For the record, for all adults who think it's ok

> to cycle on the pavement, I think it's ok to push

> you off your bike. Consider this fair warning.

>

>

>

> Edited as I wasn't a fast enough typer, and my

> post didn't make sense.

[midivydale]

Oh dear, i just realised there is a whole new world outside the family thread:)

[Smiler]

"a fair proportion of them in jim-jams presumably for a streamlined meal/bed-time experience", and presumably swigging babyccinos!

I want to go to see it!

(but not that much).