Bric-a-brac guy took my stuff and won't pay up

[Adam]

I gave some stuff to David, the bric-a-brac shop owner on Upland Rd. We agreed he'd try to sell it for ?60 (it was easily worth that). 6 months and about a dozen visits later, he won't give me the money or my things back. There's no sign of the stuff in his shop. He always fobs me off with some excuse why he can't pay - recently simply claiming he has no cash. It doesn't seem to bother him that he's basically just stolen my stuff. And he seemed like such a nice chap too...

[stephen509]

Visit him everyday. If that doesn't work, I would just take other items to get my value back.

[KidKruger]

Have you proof/receipt he took your stuff ?

[KalamityKel]

and an agreement to the deal you both arranged?

[Gidget]

You would hope that if you took your possessions to a local established bric a brac shop that you wouldn't need a written agreement, but sadly I guess you do. I don't think that would stop you from seeking legal recourse in the small claims court. It might be worth having a word with the local police station - phone them first?

[Parkdrive]

A verbal agreemnet is binding in law, if he won't pay up just take stuff off the shelves to the value of your goods. Remember he will have added a mark up to his goods. The moral of the story is don't give anything to anyone without payment up front.

[Chillaxed]

Is this the quite large guy who puts his gear out on the footpath? If so, I'm not sure just walking in and taking equivalent goods is the best option.

[DJKillaQueen]

I think taking things will be considered as theft, without a bailiff's order. Not sure getting arrested is worth it for ?60.

[right-clicking]

Post a Lampoon on his window telling the whole world of his shoddy behaviour!

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[MrBen]

He's actually alright and a decent bloke who's taken back stuff for me. But he's disorganised and I doubt the place takes much at all so not the best play if it mattered to you. Why didn't you ebay it if was worth anything? Best sorted out offline?

[Annette Curtain]

Oh gosh-just realized who Dave is

I thought he was OK, bit slow-fuzzy minded.

Not a bad bone, in his menacing hulk like body.

Good luck.

But be honest, that junk you gave him, what was it really worth?

[Gidget]

Can you go in again and tape him on your phone giving you his excuses so you have something concrete?

[*Bob*]

Good thinking, Gidget.

How about round-the-clock surveillance with a SWAT team on standby?

[red devil]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Good thinking, Gidget.

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> How about round-the-clock surveillance with a SWAT

> team on standby?

You know all those ''what's that helicoptor doing?'' threads? Say no more...

[*Bob*]

"Green light. Take the shot."

[Adam]

@stephen509 - that was my thought, but there's nothing here I want

@KidKruger - I asked for one, but he persuaded me that he didn't work that way!

@Chillaxed - yes

@DJKillaQueen - wise words

@right-clicking - nice idea

@MrBen - yes, I liked him too. Spoken to him on a few occasions before giving him the stuff. I do occasionally use eBay, but it seemed like too much hassle for these items.

@Annette - Yes, he's a very mellow, friendly guy (even when he's telling you he won't pay you!) And yes, the stuff was definitely worth at least ?60 - it was all good quality.

@Gidget - I'd rather not do that

I'm going to keep asking him for my cash (or stuff back) whenever I go past. One day he may pay. Just thought others should know in case you are entering into a similar "deal" with him.

[KidKruger]

Does he agree he has your goods (and does he agree what the list of goods is).

Does he agree he promised you a certain amount ?

Ask him.

If he does agree, ask for your money or goods.

If he refuses/makes further excuses say you'll proceed now through small claims court.

Be polite.

But make sure you have someone with you who is not related / your partner, to 'witness', they don't need to be stood beside you, they could have happened to stroll-up previously and be browsing at the time you approach the shopkeeper...

Personally I would record it, given the circumstances, but that's probably not recommended by most.

I've used recorded phone calls in court to counter lies, even though I had no permission to record from the opponent. Nothing quite like the recording demonstrating the complete opposite of what the liar is saying, very humbling for the liar - the arrogance suddenly diminishes and the court's patience with them starts to wane.

[Gidget]

KK,

Agree with you.

Apparently doesn't want any advice - he just wanted to alert other people - but it would have been useful if he had said that first.