Barclays Cycle Superhighway Route 5 - New Cross Gate to Victoria

[bil]

FYI- consultation on proposed cycle superhighway

tfl.gov.uk/cs5

Have a good evening :-)

[ianr]

Thanks. I see there's some stuff here too, about existing cycle superhighways: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx

[bil]

Sorry everyone. Here is the link..

http://tfl.gov.uk/cs5

[Applespider]

Thanks for this; will take a careful look and respond. My immediate interest is from Vauxhall onwards since I cycle via Herne Hill now because Camberwell New Road is so unpleasant.

Immediate thoughts are that I am very glad to see right turns being proposed along Vauxhall Bridge Road. I definitely prefer option 2 as far as going over Vauxhall Bridge. I would far rather share a wider space with a few buses than end up on a shared pavement with pedestrians running for trains and dodging around walkers into the cycle lane. Flus for those of us who want to filter over to turn right along South Lambeth Road, it will be easier to do so. The new 'early bird' lights only help if you arrive at a point where the lights are red. If you are in free flowing traffic, getting off the pavement and over will be tricky.

I'd also prefer the road option for the gyratory but could see that less confident cyclists might prefer the shared footpath option.

I am not convinced by it stopping at Neathouse Place as it does. It handholds and then dumps cyclists at the start of the horrible one way system. There is no easy/direct way to get to the western end of Victoria St on two wheels. It's either taking your chances with multiple lanes of traffic around Bressenden Place, going on a detour through the back streets round St Vincent Square (incidentally also full of one-way streets) or getting off the bike and manoeuvring it through already crowded pavements.

Am less familiar cycling the roads around Peckham but it does seem to address the bits that I've noticed weren't great in the past. It might make me covert my route! How well does it link up with the old canal path etc?

[howdood]

Just got the leaflet for this through my door. The phrase I'm worried about is "new mandatory cycle lanes". What does "mandatory" mean? On days when I feel sprightly I happily bike round Vauxhall Cross on the road without using the poorly-designed cycle "solution". Ditto for the Elephant. Is this now a proposal to prevent cyclists from using stretches of road which are deemed (by non-cyclists) to be "too dangerous", and instead to use the "mandatory" cycle solution? That would be a terrifying prospect. I emailed the consultation email address two days ago to ask about this, but so far have not received a reply.

[Applespider]

Don't worry; a mandatory cycle lane has a solid white line which motorised vehicles aren't allowed into and, I believe , could be penalised for. An advisory cycle lane has a striped line and vehicles can use. They're not to do with whether cyclists have to use them. Having said that, in practice there's no real difference. Motorcycles still end up using the mandatory lane on the Embankment and cars park in the one at Battersea Park.

[Burbage]

The consultation response is now available from http://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/cycling/cs5

TfL has now "decided to substantially recast the previous proposals for some sections of CS5", which means that, up to the Oval, quite a lot of the changes have been abandoned or postponed. But not the 20mph limit in Camberwell (the town centre and Peckham High Street/Peckham Road), which will be going ahead.

From the Oval to the centre of town, including the Vauxhall Gyratory, all the plans are back on the drawing board, and there'll apparently be another consultation on those later. That means the really horrid bits are going to stay horrid for a while longer, but at least they won't be getting worse.

[lane lover]

Thats a shame. I was really looking forward to the changes around Vauxhaul.

Hopefully its only a slight delay ...

[Applespider]

Thanks for that Burbage. Looks like a lot of it will now be 2014 or even 2015.

I too was looking forward to the southbound route at Vauxhall being better before that!

[snowy]

I'm assuming that's because Vauxhall gyratory system is to be completely remodelled at some point soon?