Dulwich Hospital Wasteland - New ED Carpark?

[Gimme]

Why don't Southwark turn the wasteland next to the hospital into a temporary car park while they decide what to do... ?That would relieve pressure on parking in area, allow people using ED station to park there rather than the streets near the station and potentially bring more shoppers into ED as a result of easy parking.

If it works, they could keep the car park and turn ED into a CPZ without impacting the shops.

In Balham, Sainsburys were allowed to build a new supermarket only if they made car parking available for all shoppers using Balham High Road. If that space next to Dulwich Hospital becomes a Waitrose then the council should consider a similar provision in the lease.

[legalbeagle]

Gimme - really really good idea. Parking is much needed and there is a huge empty space nearby...... No brainer, I'd say!

[ed_pete]

I believe the land is not owned by Southwark Council but Southwark PCT who I guess are more concerned with healthcare provision than parking issues. Having said that I believe that the local LD councillors have involved the Harris Federation in lobbying for a new Primary School on the site.

http://www.harrisfederation.org.uk/185/east-dulwich-free-school

[the-e-dealer]

Because its not theirs

[BrandNewGuy]

A car park will simply attract more people (local or otherwise) to drive to the station who currently don't. An increase in traffic and no change to local parking pressures.

[Marmora Man]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> A car park will simply attract more people (local

> or otherwise) to drive to the station who

> currently don't. An increase in traffic and no

> change to local parking pressures.

This would imply a huge, unmet, demand for parking close to the station - which is unlikely. More likely is a huge pent up commuter frustration at the difficulty in locating a parking space at 07.30 in the morning and resident frustration at problems in parking close to home. Gimme's suggestion would alleviate both of these - at least temporarily.

[BrandNewGuy]

No, it would quickly attract those from outside the area who see an opportunity to use a Zone 2 station with plenty of parking. Build it and they will come...

[Jeremy]

BNG, Canada Water is an example of another zone 2 station (better connected) with loads of available free car parking. Still, only a handful of people use it for commuting.

[BrandNewGuy]

But Canada Water's not proximate to areas with large residential commuting populations, whereas East Dulwich is.

[Jeremy]

Canada Water is right next to several major residential areas.

I realise this is a hypothetical discussion as such a car park will NEVER be built, but I am pretty sure that if someone was going to drive in from "outside the area", then somewhere a bit more central that was on the Jubilee line would be much more attractive.

[computedshorty]

If they do you can expect the high costs of parking at any Hospital.

[BrandNewGuy]

We have enough parking in East Dulwich. There, I said it. It may be frustrating, it may be annoying, but we have enough. I don't see cars double-parked in Lordship Lane or dumped on Denmark Hill... Ergo, we have enough.

And if you think people who live near The Plough, say, somehow deserve to have a car park so that they can drive to the station, I'd seriously question the public benefit.

[DulwichFox]

Fairground would be good... Not got one of those..

Foxy

[the-e-dealer]

A and e dept would be good

[Reg Smeeton]

Just imagine if that space was made available to park (say) 100 cars. Then in two years time the car park is closed as building work starts. Suddenly 100+ people who have become used to parking close to the station in East Dulwich and regard it as a right can't do so. For a while they'll therefore be looking to park in whatever other spaces they can find in the area. Everyone will be unhappier than they are at the moment.

[Southeast Twenty Stu]

Yes, maybe the Elmington Estate which Southwark demolished a decade ago and then left derelict could also be used for parking...... Or Southwark could stop being so disgracefully inefficient and incompetent in creating huge areas of wasteland in the first place.

[LadyDeliah]

They could use some of the space for allotments as there is a high demand in the area and this would have lots of positive local benefits including re health & community.

If people find car use inconvenient, then maybe we should keep it that way. Then people might just stop using cars so much and everyone else benefits.

[tfwsoll]

Just out of interest, why do so many people (apparently) drive to East Dulwich station?

[mastershake]

they drive there because a) it's the nearest station to the private schools and nurseries in East Dulwich, thus easier pickups etc, b) they're lazy, c) it's in zone 2 and you can park for free near it

and before we get the standard 'nobody actually does this' East Dulwich Forum thing going, people genuinely do park near the station every morning, i see them doing it on my way in.

[the-e-dealer]

Which Private Schools in East Dulwich?

[mastershake]

alleyns and jags

[Coops46]

Allotments are a great idea. We don't need more car parking.

[KalamityKel]

Police station, A&E and needle exchange... simple :-))

[sillywoman]

Allotments sound just great. Particularly for those with tiny gardens (most of ED).

[intexasatthe moment]

Elmington Estate

http://directobjective.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/elmington-estate-revisited.html