The interview

[Spartacus]

Watching or not ?

[Chick]

Not.

[siousxiesue]

Nope

[TheCat]

No Thanks...I get enough unsubstantiated assertions, subjective interpretations, and self-pitying waffle from reading the EDF...:)

[KidKruger]

So irrelevant to my life - some rich toffs in the media.

[Sue]

I'll probably watch it at some point :)

[malumbu]

What? I couldn't get Amazon Prime to work - only used it twice to watch footy because the kids have Amazon Prime free, but it wouldn't go onto the Handmaids Tale. So I watched Palin in India, which always makes me want to go back.

[MrsR]

Posh Jeremy Kyle - no thanks.

[Spartacus]

It's happened, but despite not wanting to watch it , it is dominating the news

Would hate to have my family issues aired in public like that. It sounds more like Jeremy Kyle should be doing the interview from the clips I've heard... "so Andrew, Meghan said you did xyz, what have you got to say about that" or "and you say Harry's not your child, would you care to see the paternity test we did on that ? Results after the break !"

[JohnL]

"After my dad stopped taking my calls"

That's Jeremy Kyle stuff - Can't see how the monarchy will continue under Charles.

[JohnL]

The UK press denying it's ever been bigoted.

?The UK media is not bigoted and will not be swayed from its vital role holding the rich and powerful to account following the attack on the press by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-society-of-editors-meghan-markle-ian-murray-oprah-winfrey-b922908.html

[Spartacus]

JohnL Wrote:

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> "After my dad stopped taking my calls"

>

>

> That's Jeremy Kyle stuff - Can't see how the

> monarchy will continue under Charles.

It won't under Charles

But under William it will

It's a massive tourist boost to this country so the cost is far outweighed by the benefits

Or are you proposing we do a French revolution 😱

[JohnL]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> Or are you proposing we do a French revolution

> 😱

A guillotine on Dulwich Square might be a bit old fashioned :)

[TheCat]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> It's happened, but despite not wanting to watch it

> , it is dominating the news

>

> Would hate to have my family issues aired in

> public like that. It sounds more like Jeremy Kyle

> should be doing the interview from the clips I've

> heard... "so Andrew, Meghan said you did xyz, what

> have you got to say about that" or "and you say

> Harry's not your child, would you care to see the

> paternity test we did on that ? Results after the

> break !"

Very true. Didnt watch it, but the fallout/news coverage is unavoidable.

Having basically read all the controversial statements...might as well add my two cents...

- It strikes me as a highly choreographed affair - with just enough being revealed/implied by the various statements to do maximum damage to the 'firm', while attempting to appear innocent/victimised at the same time.

- Most of the controversial statements were highly subjective, with (at best) tenuous links/implications/partial truths - but this is enough for the American press in particular to run with it largely unquestioned.

- For those that want to like Meaghan, or those that delight in accusations of racism and bigotry - 'Meghan's truth' has now morphed into 'the' truth, despite more holes than swiss cheese in the overall narrative.

- I think at the end of the day what we have here is a culture clash between a rather pampereded Hollywood celeb and a rather pampered royal institution - and unfortunately one of the pampered hollywood things to do is to tell 'your side' in such an interview, and the pampered royal thing to do is to stay silent and suck it up......so 'the' truth actually ends up as shrouded as ever....

Probably the biggest red flag for me that it was a thinly veiled hatchet job - was the whole discussion over the who made who cry between Meghan and Kate Middleton - A fair and reasonable response could have easily just been...there was a disagreement about Bridesmaid dresses - they were both upset by it, and they moved on. But...no...Megs had to make a point of saying it was actually Kate that made HER cry (how would she know if on the way homne, kate had cried or not over the issue?).....the result being that she 'didnt want to disparage anyone' while throwing kate under the bus at the same time.....

All that said, I cant believe i've been sucked in to giving a sh!t:)

[JohnL]

Piers cares deeply and walked off GMTV this morning after this conversation. I take it this weatherman is more involved than just saying where it's going to rain.

"The weatherman told Piers: ?I understand you don?t like Meghan Markle, you?ve made it so clear a number of times on this programme. I understand you had a personal relationship with Meghan Markle - or had one - and she cut you off.

?She?s entitled to cut you off if she wants to.

"

[JohnL]

and cold war steve's take:

[fishbiscuits]

I have no interest in the royal family. But they are still a FAMILY, after all. Families have arguments... how many of us have felt unsupported? How many of us have witnessed friction between a partner/spouse and the wider family? How many of us have a racist uncle/grandad/etc?

Why would you choose to conduct this argument not only in public, but via the biggest possible platform? Rhetorical question... we all know the answer...

[malumbu]

Scrap the monarchy (they can stay on for ceremonial reasons), and become a secular republic. Ditch that National Anthem. We could have a tune based on the anti Reagan Heaven 17 song, "Brothers, sisters, we don't need that fascist Groove Thang." Suggestions for lyrics before I speak with Glenn Gregory and the team. Maybe there are some budding Gil Scott-Heron's in our community. Also thinking Public Enemy. Scrap the Monarchy, Scrap the Monarchy, I'll get an ear worm.

[keano77]

Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are assuming the question of the colour of the baby?s skin was racist.

The concern might have been what the baby would look like with ginger hair against possible shades of skin.

😬

[JohnL]

keano77 Wrote:

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> Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> assuming the question of the colour of the baby?s

> skin was racist.

>

> The concern might have been what the baby would

> look like with ginger hair against possible shades

> of skin.

>

> 😬

Oprah more or less directed it that way so I thought they had probably discussed how to phrase the question beforehand - Meghan definitely saw it as racist.

Thoughtless comments are seen as evidence of systematic racism I think.

[TheCat]

keano77 Wrote:

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> Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> assuming the question of the colour of the baby?s

> skin was racist.

Haven't we been told for the past year that to be 'anti-racist', one cannot be colorblind. You must acknowledge skin colour. To be colourblind in this matter, is to tacitly support racism.

Oh look....here's an article from Ms Winfrey's very own magazine saying exactly that....

https://www.oprahmag.com/life/relationships-love/a32824297/color-blind-myth-racism/

I'd like to think the royal family was just being Anti-rascist.

[JohnL]

It was portrayed in the interview as if the comment portrayed a darker skin colour as less desirable for the royal family - we'll never know for sure if that was the intent.

We don't even know who said it - although I suspect someone.

[Loutwo]

A outdated institution which should have been confined to the history books over a century ago. Nevertheless, it?s still around, and if you are naive enough to believe Meghan Markle?s odd assumption that she wasn?t aware of what the institution of monarchy and being a working member of it was all about, before she married into it, you are extremely naive. Also, why is everyone so shocked about racism and sexism? It?s been happening publicly for decades. They don?t exactly try to hide it.

Louisa.

[Whoeveritis]

It?s not about Meghan, she could have been anyone, being mixed race added fuel to fire, Dodi was Muslim. This is about Harry despising the toxic regime he was born into, which killed his mother, he?s livid and rightly so. Everyone else accepted her treatment and demise. They are scared of being assassinated.I champion Harry, however, don?t be surprised in years to come Meghan says, you set me up,

[JohnL]

I can't really read Meghan very well but I think Harry has had a lot of trauma.

I saw a video of him saying that the media killed Diana and both him and William were told that as boys.