The interview

[Whoeveritis]

I agree, why is everyone so shocked !?

[diable rouge]

''I didn't watch it but I'm going to comment anyway despite not knowing the full context of what was said, and instead will form my opinion from the comments of assorted cultural keyboard warriors''

What a fooking bunch of gossiping fishwives...:)

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

I think anyone commenting without actually WATCHING the show needs to WATCH it first and than comment. The clips are dramatised and taken out of context. When you watch the show there isn?t more holes than a Swiss cheese plus they said there was a ?concern? about Archie?s colour which is different to being curious as to who he will take after colour wise.

Watch the show, then give feedback otherwise you are just as bad as the tabloids.

[Whoeveritis]

What! You are trying to shame us for loving a bit of gossip, ?? EDF we need support where are your advisors ,please help we?re being picked on 😇

[TheCat]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> ''I didn't watch it but I'm going to comment

> anyway despite not knowing the full context of

> what was said, and instead will form my opinion

> from the comments of assorted cultural keyboard

> warriors''

>

> What a fooking bunch of gossiping fishwives...:)

you're right. I am rather ashamed at myself. I blame intrusive social media and the institution that is the EDF (aka 'The Forum').

[diable rouge]

You need to look much closer to home than that Morag...ye ken

[Nigello]

Good point re context - nobody can ever know that for certain as it is all recalled memory, some of which conflicted with Harry's recollection. Oprah wanted box-office and got it. It wasn't journalism, it was spectacle and reflects badly on the participants. It - the interview - has become like Brexit, ie. a coat hanger for any number of virtues and prejudices, so in that respect it was a success because everyone went away happy, content that what they saw and heard validated their existing beliefs.

[EDguy89]

keano77 Wrote:

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> Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> assuming the question of the colour of the baby?s

> skin was racist.

>

> The concern might have been what the baby would

> look like with ginger hair against possible shades

> of skin.

>

> 😬

"I haven't seen it, but let me tell you how this black person misunderstood racism"

Also, if the concern was actually hair colour, then they would have said "I'm concerned about the child's hair colour".

You'd likely win gold at the Olympics with that gymnastics routine.

[diable rouge]

You see it a lot in modern day 'journalism', especially contrarians like the spiked-online mob, who instead of working through context and nuances towards a conclusion, they start with a conclusion that fits in with their culture war narrative and work back from that. A distinct lack of original, critical thinking...

[Spartacus]

Just a thought, every little girl (yes there are exceptions) grows up wanting to meet a handsome princess fall in love and be a princess (I still have my Cinderella outfit 🤔)

Yet reality has struck Meghan when it happened to her and it has to be naive of her not to understand what marrying into the Windsor family would entail (sadly Princess Diana was a recent case from history)

But to air your dirty laundry in public on media talk shows doesn't bode well for future relationships with her now extended family and for Harry's relationship with them.

To help put her comments into context, let's not also forget her very public spats with her father pre wedding.

[TheCat]

EDguy89 Wrote:

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>

> "let me tell you how this

> black person misunderstood racism"

>

How she herself feels/felt on hearing relayed news of someone else's conversation is one thing. Implying very unempathetically (in a public forum) what someone else 'meant' by a comment heard secondhand is quite another.

But the likely (my opinion) aim of manipulating the press and the public has been achieved...you've already labelled it as 'racism' without question....upon hearing it now 3rd-hand....

[Whoeveritis]

What was Oprah wearing on her head? To me it looked like two very large droopy ears, with all this honesty why didn?t someone tell her

[keano77]

EDguy89 Wrote:

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> keano77 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> > assuming the question of the colour of the

> baby?s

> > skin was racist.

> >

> > The concern might have been what the baby would

> > look like with ginger hair against possible

> shades

> > of skin.

> >

> > 😬

>

> "I haven't seen it, but let me tell you how this

> black person misunderstood racism"

>

> Also, if the concern was actually hair colour,

> then they would have said "I'm concerned about the

> child's hair colour".

>

> You'd likely win gold at the Olympics with that

> gymnastics routine.

Fair enough EDguy89, but then I don?t have have an expensive PR machine behind me telling me the best buttons to press (racism, mental illness), when to get tearful, broken-voiced, when to put my hand on my baby bump etc. And when the storm reverberates around the world, release another black and white picture of the two of you with Archie set against a nature background.

That should get them eating out of your hand your highness.

[Lynne]

It's just an over-blown case of "What our Whatsit said to our Whoever at Aunty X's funeral. And Uncle Z looked at me funnily". No good would come of writing that up for the local paper.

I think Oprah should tale some of the responsibility for airing this sort of tittle tattle if she prides herself on being a professional interviewer, rather than just out to make money, which has been her standpoint in the past. She must realise it would only cause damage.

[Jules-and-Boo]

Megan?s taken full advantage of a team planning and prepping this. It?s all about building a brand.... and public empathy is incredibly valuable

[JohnL]

Very polite release from the palace. They want to deal with this privately and obviously hope the media shut up a bit.

Ends saying Harry Meghan and Archie are much loved members of the family.

[JohnL]

Piers has resigned so his walkout wasn't a set-up (or maybe it was).

I 100% expect to see him turn up on GB-TV by the end of the month.

[Seabag]

It takes some of the heat off of Prince Andrew, for now.

I wonder who?d be entitled enough to think of asking ?what shade will the new baby be?? whilst straight faced pointing to a Farrow & Ball paint chart?

I?m happy to speculate Andrew or Prince Philip.

[wordsworth]

Apparently hazza n sparkle left because his uncle was desperate to baby sit

[Jules-and-Boo]

Ouch

[nxjen]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> Megan?s taken full advantage of a team planning

> and prepping this. It?s all about building a

> brand.... and public empathy is incredibly

> valuable

Yes, she?s fully clued up on image etc but other than that incredibly naive. Oprah, on the other hand, has been playing a long game.

My contender for who asked the ?what colour? question is one of the two airhead grand daughter princesses.

[Spartacus]

I do wonder what Meghan's longer game plan is?

Talk show host, book(s) , film on her life ,political role?

It seems to me that she is setting the stage up for something bigger in her mind.

Hopefully the Americans will tire of their story soon when it runs out of new shocking revelations about how the Queen trained the Corgis to poop in her shoes or similar and they will fade from public view after her fifteen minutes of fame.

Oh well back to the pandemic which is blighting real lives all around us.

[JohnL]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> Hopefully the Americans will tire of their story

> soon when it runs out of new shocking revelations

> about how the Queen trained the Corgis to poop in

> her shoes or similar and they will fade from

> public view after her fifteen minutes of fame.

It's part of the "Culture Wars" in the US so it'll just move on in my view. I notice the group representing UK press (The Society of Editors) says the UK press isn't bigoted - a lot of people disagree with that.

CNN trying to link it all together in this article https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/09/uk/meghan-racism-uk-reaction-gbr-intl/index.html

and finally

"CNN will soon launch Royal News, a weekly newsletter bringing you the inside track on the royal family, what they are up to in public and what's happening behind palace walls. " LOL are they on a troll :)

[JohnL]

So the Press Gazette tried to back up claims of the Society of Editors that UK media is not bigoted but a lot of people are disagreeing. Is the press the real problem here ?

https://pressgazette.co.uk/bigoted-uk-press-harry-and-meghan-racism-claim-debate-media-coverage/

[Spartacus]

JohnL Wrote:

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> So the Press Gazette tried to back up claims of

> the Society of Editors that UK media is not

> bigoted but a lot of people are disagreeing. Is

> the press the real problem here ?

>

> https://pressgazette.co.uk/bigoted-uk-press-harry-

> and-meghan-racism-claim-debate-media-coverage/

For every view there's a counter view (as has been demonstrated many times on the forum)

There will always be disagreeing with a public statement like the press is not bigoted but their disagreement doesn't make the statement incorrect but the statement may not necessarily be correct either.

My feeling is that things like this should be taken with a pinch of salt and the facts examined not the hysteria around the story.

The Piers thing for example attracted a lot of complaints to ofcom, but I have to question how many of those complaining actual saw him say it and how many are jumping on a social media bandwagon and complaining without actually having seen the event happening?

Their complaints aren't ant less important but would they have occurred if they weren't told about it? 🤔

We are becoming a society where we judge via social media based on what Karen put on facebook without examining the truth to draw our own conclusions.