The Budget

[georgia]

14p on a bottle of wine :(

[fish]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> "would you like to see a reduction in public

> spending elsewhere?"

>

> Pulling troops out of Iraq, and phased from

> Afghanistan.

> Not wasting any more money on ID cards.

> Stop the ?12bn NHS IT project, it's a miserable

> failure, stop now after only ?3 billion before we

> chuck any more good money at bad (andersen,

> fujitsu et al).

> Next time have an IT strategy for the NHS, not an

> "IT Strategy".

> Don't renew Trident, we are, after all, signed up

> to the NPT.

100 per cent agree.:)(tu)

[mockney piers]

Budget Live!! (a la daily mash) http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/budget-live!-20080312789/

1232: British economy like an injured greyhound, says Darling

1248: Gordon Brown pushes chancellor out of the way and tells him he's 'doing it all wrong'.

1254: Pledge to abolish poor children. 'They're so horrid' says chancellor

1306: Glasgow-London journey time reduced to 'less than two weeks'

1320: Cigarettes to be sold from box full of cobras

Is it just me or is the daily mash the best site on the internet at the moment?

[SeanMacGabhann]

easy georgia - when fish is talking about genuine poverty and OAPs, complaining about 14p on a bottle of wine is a bit .... well...

[KalamityKel]

Sean I'm sure OAPs and those suffering through poverty are equally effected by the increase in wine price too! ;-)

[georgia]

How thoughtless of me...::o

[SeanMacGabhann]

indeed Kel - but they have more cause to complain

[macroban]

Look on the sunny side of life.

It's better than the 1931 Budget.

[david_carnell]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> "would you like to see a reduction in public

> spending elsewhere?"

>

> Pulling troops out of Iraq Not yet, and phased from

> Afghanistan Agreed.

> Not wasting any more money on ID cards Too bloody right.

> Stop the ?12bn NHS IT project, it's a miserable

> failure, stop now after only ?3 billion before we

> chuck any more good money at bad (andersen,

> fujitsu et al). Ditto

> Next time have an IT strategy for the NHS, not an

> "IT Strategy".

> Don't renew Trident, we are, after all, signed up

> to the NPT. We part here, however...maybe another time, another thread

I could easily make cuts elsewhere in the defence budget however - Eurofighter, Type 45s, Nimrod etc but that's the defence geek in me coming out. ID cards could be a big saver in the long term - the thru-life costs are enormous.

[fish]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> Nice one DC. I'm sick and tired of people saying

> "ooh all these little hitlers saying what I can

> and can't say".

> Short of outright slander, libel or a crass

> personal attack, noone tries to stop anone saying

> anything.

> But unfocussed, spitleflecked rants with no

> purpose other than some cathartic unloading of

> pent up aggression rather sets it self up to a

> rhetort of "can't you say something useful".

>

> I'm sure there's a thread somewhere specifically

> for that. If not, I'll set one up.

>

> As it goes, if you tease out the rhetoric from

> Fish's post, she's saying

>

> I don't think Alistair Darling is really the

> Chancellor, I think Brown is holding onto the

> reigns of economic policy.

> I don't think an extra ?50 annually towards

> pensioners' fuel bills (?100 for the over 80s) is

> doing enough to prevent the winter crises faced by

> the elderly each winter.

> I think politicians live in an ivory tower.

>

> None of which is so very contentious is it.

What makes you think I'm a She(?)

[KalamityKel]

david_carnell Wrote:

> ID

cards could be a big saver in the long term - the

> thru-life costs are enormous.

Erm... correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't fraud and identify theft cost everyone loadsa money?

[david_carnell]

Yes, and ID cards will do nothing to prevent this IMO.

If you're interested in why PM me and I'll see if I can dig up some research rather than vear off topic too much.

[mockney piers]

oops sorry fish, I always seem to get it wrong, I was absolutely convinced snorky was a she for ages too if it's any consolation.

[KalamityKel]

Everyone grumbles with budget... the good and bad bits... personally (and for completely selfish reasons) I hate the day... having a helicopter circling round all is does ones head in :p

[georgia]

Yes it affects everyone differently - and I was joking about the wine...

[fish]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> oops sorry fish, I always seem to get it wrong, I

> was absolutely convinced snorky was a she for ages

> too if it's any consolation.

I did dress up as Shirley Bassey, once;-)(?)

[SeanMacGabhann]

I always thought "crystalclear" was a she - until (s)he changed their name to fear'n'boozin

[mockney piers]

Despite our run-ins in the past DC (always interesting), I suspect we're a lot closer politically than we think.

[david_carnell]

Oh, I know we are.

Some of the time I want to give an argument an airing and some of the time I want to try and work out why I think what I do and you're a useful sounding board and nearly always have something interesting and intelligent to say.

But, in the words of a crazy yank, if you want those nukes you'll have to pry them "from my cold, dead hands". Which shouldn't be too hard if I've been handling weapons-grade uranium! ;-)

[mockney piers]

LOL, just make sure you use a pair of marigolds, and you'll be fine!!

[KalamityKel]

Blimey the image uve conjured in my mind!

Strangely I got totally confused wiv the term "nondoms" being thrown out from the small hole in the office which acts as the finance department office... safe to say I DO know wot it is and it's not norty!

[citizenED]

David Carnell, your 2.39pm post was a wonderfully concise piece of writing. One of the best I have ever read on this forum. Thanks.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Dave C - your quote just reminded me of another great and crazy yank (who I had the privilege to meet) - Bill Hicks

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"I'll tell you, too, that's starting to depress me about UFO's, about the fact that they cross galaxies or wherever they come from to visit us and always end up in places like Fife, Alabama.

Maybe these are not super-intelligent beings, man. Maybe they're like hillbilly aliens. Some intergalactic Joade family or something.

"Don't you all want to land in New York, or L.A.?"

"Nah, we just had a long trip, we gonna kick back and whittle some."

Oh, my God, they're idiots.

"We're gonna enter our mothership in the tractor pull!"

My God, we're being invaded by rednecks. My biggest fear. Last thing I want to see is a flying saucer up on blocks in front of some trailer, you know?

Wouldn't that be depressing? Some bumper sticker on it - "They'll get my ray gun when they pry my cold, dead, eighteen-fingered hand off of it!"

Herb

[david_carnell]

citizenED Wrote:

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> David Carnell, your 2.39pm post was a wonderfully

> concise piece of writing. One of the best I have

> ever read on this forum. Thanks.

Are you taking the proverbial? :-S

If that's a genuine compliment, thank you.

If you're being sarky, well, um, I don't know. Bugger off. ;-)

[citizenED]

I can do sarky, I can do satire, I do a nice line in nonsense, but in this case I was being perfectly straight.