How to go about getting a low traffic barrier put in in East Dulwich?

[ruffers]

You could try the Melford Road method. Get Thames Water to close the road intermittently while installing new water mains. Then, and this is important, make sure they make a mess of it. The subsequent leaks can then get in the gas supply, so you need a new gas main. They closed the road last night to do this, and it'll be closed for a week or so.

Voila! I'm off to buy some planters...

[Rockets]

And it now looks like the water main is going again at the end of Underhill at the junction of the A205 - water on the surface of the road again......so back will come Thames Water....

[Abe_froeman]

oof

[Chunx]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> CPR Dave, I take it you're talking about Crystal

> Palace Road ?

>

> Whilst I understand your sentiments, it would be

> far better if the existing LTN barriers are

> removed to restore normal services to all roads in

> the area.

Here here remove all the London wide LTN?s, all they do is cause more congestion. Not everyone is able to walk, scoot, cycle or take public transport. Let the roads be open so traffic can freely flow. Teach everyone how to use the road correctly, yes a red light means stop whether you are scooting, cycling or in a motor vehicle. When the ULEZ is extended pollution should be a lesser issue as less polluting cars should become the norm.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Yes, we should encourage cars everywhere - especially on residential streets which can be used as high speed cut throughs. Let's make it as easy as possible to drive locally - after all, we all want increasing car use and particularly lot's of short, local car journeys. Bigger cars too ideally - lot's more SUVs with high bonnets to target upper body injuries and mount pavements more easily. It's the only way to improve the environment.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Chunx Wrote:

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> Spartacus Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > CPR Dave, I take it you're talking about

> Crystal

> > Palace Road ?

> >

> > Whilst I understand your sentiments, it would

> be

> > far better if the existing LTN barriers are

> > removed to restore normal services to all roads

> in

> > the area.

>

> Here here remove all the London wide LTN?s, all

> they do is cause more congestion. Not everyone is

> able to walk, scoot, cycle or take public

> transport. Let the roads be open so traffic can

> freely flow. Teach everyone how to use the road

> correctly, yes a red light means stop whether you

> are scooting, cycling or in a motor vehicle. When

> the ULEZ is extended pollution should be a lesser

> issue as less polluting cars should become the

> norm.

Remember before LTNs - how the traffic always flowed freely and congestion had never been experienced in London

[Spartacus]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Chunx Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Spartacus Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > CPR Dave, I take it you're talking about

> > Crystal

> > > Palace Road ?

> > >

> > > Whilst I understand your sentiments, it would

> > be

> > > far better if the existing LTN barriers are

> > > removed to restore normal services to all

> roads

> > in

> > > the area.

> >

> > Here here remove all the London wide LTN?s, all

> > they do is cause more congestion. Not everyone

> is

> > able to walk, scoot, cycle or take public

> > transport. Let the roads be open so traffic can

> > freely flow. Teach everyone how to use the road

> > correctly, yes a red light means stop whether

> you

> > are scooting, cycling or in a motor vehicle.

> When

> > the ULEZ is extended pollution should be a

> lesser

> > issue as less polluting cars should become the

> > norm.

>

> Remember before LTNs - how the traffic always

> flowed freely and congestion had never been

> experienced in London

Remember before LTNs how when there was a blockage in a road , traffic could flow freely via other roads to reduce congestion overall

I miss the good old days

[Earl Aelfheah]

It?s true. A lorry blocking the main road didn?t cause any congestion before

[Earl Aelfheah]

Traffic flowed freely

[malumbu]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Yes, we should encourage cars everywhere - especially on residential streets which can be used as high speed cut throughs. Let's make it as easy as possible to drive locally - after all, we all want increasing car use and particularly lot's of short, local car journeys. Bigger cars too ideally - lot's more SUVs with high bonnets to

target upper body injuries and mount pavements more easily. It's the only way to improve the environment.

The heavier the car, the greater the harm when it hits you. I could assume that heavier cars tend to be driven faster, causing greater harm on impact. Crumple zones and design of the front of the car can reduce harm, but ultimately it is weight and speed that are the main factors. Autonomous braking is not necessarily the simple answer as drivers could become dependent worsening driving skills.

[heartblock]

So...to get back to the original OP.......

[LTN BooHoo]

heartblock Wrote:

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> I imagine .... something like this? You form a

> small group in a posh road or roads and call

> yourself something like ?rich people for only our

> children?s health? then you flatter certain

> Borough councillors..get on any campaign or

> sub-group you can, Green-wash your NIMBY ideas and

> also helpful if you have something like an

> architect or town planner who is on a council

> planning sub-committee ... I imagine

Who is on the sub-committee that you object to? Sounds like unfair advantage!

[Metallic]

It's got to go somewhere love, hard luck you've got it so that all those twee little closed off roads everywhere can support a silly LTN policy.