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Holland or Italy to qualify from that side of the draw for the final. I can see the Italians frustrating the Spanish in the Q-F and winning on penalties or in extra-time. The semi-final will be a cracker.


Difficult to tell from the other side. Turkey could surprise Croatia, and there's no reason why Germany can't beat an arrogant Portugal. Germany haven't played particularly well yet, and one senses that Ballack has got the bit between his teeth - he knows this is probably one of his last chances of glory at international level. I think that Q-F will be a cracker, and the Germans might sneak it.

monica Wrote:

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> errm just to remind all the cynics italy are

> through with holland mm 2-0 to the belle azzure



Against ten men it's not hard, Just to remind the Italians, Holland beat France 4-1 with 11 men on the pitch. The futures bright the futures Holland. ;-)

France were poor - no doubt about that - the players were all sulking. Manager will go now and many players will retire. Some exciting quarter finals coming up - wouldn't like to say who would win at the moment although Holland and Portugal and Spain must be in with a good chance.

"I'm quite enjoying the Euros without England"


Me too - the ratio of good vs crap games has been surprisingly high compared to so many recent international tournaments


Holland are looking fantastic and have strength in depth up front at least - picking a starting front three from Van Nistelrooy, Huntelaar, Van Persie, Robben, Kuyt and Sneijder(?) is a tough one

Come on Turkey, not sure we'll succeed against the Germans but I didn't expect us to go this far. What an ending last night!!!! Fighting between idiots masquerading as fans in the fanzone spoilt it, why do people regress to tribal behaviour at times like this???? I know I'm passionate but I've never felt the urge to kick the living shit out of an opposing fan after a game.


My poor old ticker is taking a hiding and the season is another 2 months off!!!!

Hat's off to Turkey, they really don't give up do they.

It was a pretty cynical gameplan but it worked, it could work against group germany, but I think it'll come a cropper to this new fangled quarter finals germany.


I've a bad feeling that a similar game will serve Italy well against Spain and that'll be m number one AND two teams out at the quarters.


Holland Germany final? Could be. I called Germany to begin with and my head says it still will, heart saying holland (well, Spain if we can beat the bloody Italians*)


*oh, and I'm pretty sure I said they'd get through the group too

Best football tournament as long as I can remember.


Read an article in the Times today about when the brilliance subsides in a match in Euro 2008, the drama has taken over....too true


In the same paper, a misguided fool was perplexed and questioned why BBC/ITV had to show it - just because none of the home nations were in attendance !!!

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