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I'm not a particular fan of Starbucks I have to say, but anything is better than yet another Poundland, nail shop, butchers, bookies or hairdresser...




JohnL Wrote:

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> Ironically I guess if M&S food, Starbucks etc.

> opened in Rye Lane

> they'd probably be packed out, unlike Curry's and

> WHSmith who

> struggled.

>

> But still slightly to early in the process

> although I reckon a

> chain coffee shop (I know that's not popular with

> some) within

> the year - maybe on the south end.

Leave Rye Lane as it is FFS. Yeah OK, mess with the station entrance a bit and put a nice square there maybe, but the rest of it is poifect. Until the hair balls get big enough to knock you over, don't worry about it (they van be addressed anyway by directly approaching the businesses rather than whining on EDF about it).

I'm not sure how kindly the businesses look upon somebody like myself asking them to clear up their hair balls and rubbish. Surely this is something the council should be enforcing? It seems like they've just given up trying.




KidKruger Wrote:

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> Leave Rye Lane as it is FFS. Yeah OK, mess with

> the station entrance a bit and put a nice square

> there maybe, but the rest of it is poifect. Until

> the hair balls get big enough to knock you over,

> don't worry about it (they van be addressed anyway

> by directly approaching the businesses rather than

> whining on EDF about it).

Cleaner, greener safer funding has approved [ among loads of other things]


?9000 extra early morning street cleaning rye lane


repair of old jones and higgins clock ?8000


restore of station staircase ?10000


http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s38532/Minutes%20-%20meeting%20on%2017%20April%202013.pdf

M&S doesn't mean much to me - but getting some more coffee shops

(we've got Ozzies, the cafe in Peckham Rye) does.


They don't have to be Starbucks/Nero/Costa - would be lovely if

they were local versions of the Guardian :)


They can replace the multitude of bookies (Maybe I should have a

coffee in there)






Jeremy Wrote:

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> Peckahm does NOT need M&S and Starbucks! There's

> lots of positive things happening at the moment,

> but turning it into a mini Bromley isn't going to

> help...

When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane will eventually start to get some new independents and the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards from the front line at the moment anyway...


I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never open there. Between the traditional African dress and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of them buying threads in there. Ditto food given the price of it is beyond many.

MrBen Wrote:

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> When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane will

> eventually start to get some new independents and

> the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards

> from the front line at the moment anyway...

>

> I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never

> open there. Between the traditional African dress

> and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of them

> buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> price of it is beyond many.


There's an M&S on Walworth Road, hardly downtown Hampstead... ;-)

That's really why I don't get people on the M&S thread who argue an M&S Simply Food opening up is going to create stampeding hordes in ED. It?s a convenience store and there are already a few of them doubted throughout SE London.


red devil Wrote:

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> MrBen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane

> will

> > eventually start to get some new independents

> and

> > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards

> > from the front line at the moment anyway...

> >

> > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never

> > open there. Between the traditional African

> dress

> > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of

> them

> > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> > price of it is beyond many.

>

> There's an M&S on Walworth Road, hardly downtown

> Hampstead... ;-)

red devil Wrote:

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> MrBen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane

> will

> > eventually start to get some new independents

> and

> > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards

> > from the front line at the moment anyway...

> >

> > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never

> > open there. Between the traditional African

> dress

> > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of

> them

> > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> > price of it is beyond many.

>

> There's an M&S on Walworth Road, hardly downtown

> Hampstead... ;-)


That's the oft quoted exception but have you ever been inside? It's basically their discount store with past 6 or so seasons stock...it's where their 2003 shapeless taupe chinos and geometric ties go to die. Until recently it dad have the best original vintage M&S sign of any of their branches which I always liked. It reminded me of the St Michael label on my first pair of Y fronts when I was 5 years old.

MrBen Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > MrBen Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane

> > will

> > > eventually start to get some new independents

> > and

> > > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50

> yards

> > > from the front line at the moment anyway...

> > >

> > > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would

> never

> > > open there. Between the traditional African

> > dress

> > > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of

> > them

> > > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> > > price of it is beyond many.

> >

> > There's an M&S on Walworth Road, hardly

> downtown

> > Hampstead... ;-)

>

> That's the oft quoted exception but have you ever

> been inside? It's basically their discount store

> with past 6 or so seasons stock...it's where their

> 2003 shapeless taupe chinos and geometric ties go

> to die. Until recently it dad have the best

> original vintage M&S sign of any of their branches

> which I always liked. It reminded me of the St

> Michael label on my first pair of Y fronts when I

> was 5 years old.


That sounds like Hipster heaven. I think we've squared the circle!...

And the one in Eltham? There are loads of M&S stores in shabbier parts of time :)


MrBen Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > MrBen Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane

> > will

> > > eventually start to get some new independents

> > and

> > > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50

> yards

> > > from the front line at the moment anyway...

> > >

> > > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would

> never

> > > open there. Between the traditional African

> > dress

> > > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of

> > them

> > > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> > > price of it is beyond many.

> >

> > There's an M&S on Walworth Road, hardly

> downtown

> > Hampstead... ;-)

>

> That's the oft quoted exception but have you ever

> been inside? It's basically their discount store

> with past 6 or so seasons stock...it's where their

> 2003 shapeless taupe chinos and geometric ties go

> to die. Until recently it dad have the best

> original vintage M&S sign of any of their branches

> which I always liked. It reminded me of the St

> Michael label on my first pair of Y fronts when I

> was 5 years old.

I agree M&S is expensive, but I've done a few shops at Waitrose recently and have been surprised how many items are cheaper than the Co-op and even Tesco. Their 500g minced beef costs around ?2.80, while Co-op's is ?4! So scratch M&S - maybe what Rye Lane needs is a Waitrose!


Also, do people really think there will ever be hipster hangouts actually on Rye Lane? I just can't see it happening, the street just seems too far gone :( I can't wait til plans are approved and work begins on that grotty station forecourt.


MrBen Wrote:

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> When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane will

> eventually start to get some new independents and

> the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards

> from the front line at the moment anyway...

>

> I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never

> open there. Between the traditional African dress

> and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of them

> buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> price of it is beyond many.

Going to be a new independant coffee shop opening beside the Station (next door to new cycle hub) opposite the Jerk Chicken place. Aked this morning if it was going to be a bar to be greeted with, "Naw you'll no get a wee dram in here laddie!" in a very poor Scottish impersonation.

Great - only just noticed the cycle hub too. :)


Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Going to be a new independant coffee shop opening

> beside the Station (next door to new cycle hub)

> opposite the Jerk Chicken place. Aked this morning

> if it was going to be a bar to be greeted with,

> "Naw you'll no get a wee dram in here laddie!" in

> a very poor Scottish impersonation.

Great news! I wonder how it will affect the guy with the coffee stall in the station though? Unless it's him that's opening it?


Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Going to be a new independant coffee shop opening

> beside the Station (next door to new cycle hub)

> opposite the Jerk Chicken place. Aked this morning

> if it was going to be a bar to be greeted with,

> "Naw you'll no get a wee dram in here laddie!" in

> a very poor Scottish impersonation.

It's already the new Dalston apparently - from a few magazines.


I feel terribly left out of all the fun - maybe I should try Franks and the Bussey building cafe.


Canavans still rather scares me :)


Girl82 Wrote:

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> I agree M&S is expensive, but I've done a few

> shops at Waitrose recently and have been surprised

> how many items are cheaper than the Co-op and even

> Tesco. Their 500g minced beef costs around ?2.80,

> while Co-op's is ?4! So scratch M&S - maybe what

> Rye Lane needs is a Waitrose!

>

> Also, do people really think there will ever be

> hipster hangouts actually on Rye Lane? I just

> can't see it happening, the street just seems too

> far gone :( I can't wait til plans are approved

> and work begins on that grotty station forecourt.

>

> MrBen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane

> will

> > eventually start to get some new independents

> and

> > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards

> > from the front line at the moment anyway...

> >

> > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never

> > open there. Between the traditional African

> dress

> > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of

> them

> > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the

> > price of it is beyond many.

Hi Jeremy, I don't know how you came to that conclusion, hee hee! Seriously though, it's mostly the litter and the dirt that depresses me to be honest. I'd also like to see more of a mix of shops, and businesses taking more pride in their surroundings (ie, not just dumping rubbish on the streets). I'm really looking forward to the redevelopment of the station, that's for sure! If it goes ahead that is...




Jeremy Wrote:

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> G82, would I be correct in assuming that you are

> not particularly fond of Peckham Rye station and

> Rye Lane in general? Just... little hints you've

> dropped once or twice give me that impression...

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