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titch juicy Wrote:

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> United need to snap out of this very quickly or

> Mourinho will be gone before Christmas. He

> imploded last year. He'll do the same again. Twice

> as much pressure on him this time around. He's

> already had brilliant success with Chelsea, they

> forgave him but different story here.



I genuinely don't think he has ever really had the heart for it. As soon as he can't buy whatever he wants, or things don't go to plan, he throws a paddy and bottles it. I really believe that.

I think only Shaw has a good reason to be peed off. Miky and Lingard were both appalling in the derby and rightly subbed at half time. Mata's substitution in the Charity Shield was a time wasting exercise which people read too much in to...some said at the time he would be sold by the transfer deadline. Herrera has a point if indeed he is peed off..played well in opening game when Pogba was suspended, then came on and did well in the derby. Basti is a similar situation to Hart's at City, clearly not fancied by Mourinho but he won't leave for another club in Europe.

I didn't like Mourinho publicly berating Shaw after the Watford defeat. I much prefer Fergie's 'siege mentality' and everything stays in-house. I think you can make similar 'clickbait' cases for most managers 'upsetting' players, goes with the territory of the modern squad game...

red devil Wrote:

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> I think only Shaw has a good reason to be peed

> off. Miky and Lingard were both appalling in the

> derby and rightly subbed at half time. Mata's

> substitution in the Charity Shield was a time

> wasting exercise which people read too much in

> to...some said at the time he would be sold by the

> transfer deadline. Herrera has a point if indeed

> he is peed off..played well in opening game when

> Pogba was suspended, then came on and did well in

> the derby. Basti is a similar situation to Hart's

> at City, clearly not fancied by Mourinho but he

> won't leave for another club in Europe.

> I didn't like Mourinho publicly berating Shaw

> after the Watford defeat. I much prefer Fergie's

> 'siege mentality' and everything stays in-house. I

> think you can make similar 'clickbait' cases for

> most managers 'upsetting' players, goes with the

> territory of the modern squad game...


I think the Miky thing was because they bought him on the back of a magnificent season playing number 10 for BVB, i assume made promises about him playing the same position at Old Trafford and then playing him out of position to accommodate Rooney. Wasn't he dropped completely from the next match day squad too? Co-incidence perhaps.

From memory he was on the bench for the CS and opening game at Bournemouth, then picked up an injury playing for Armenia during the international break, played his first game in the derby where he was subbed at half time and later found to have aggravated the same injury, and he he's been out injured since.

I read that Miky played on the right side of midfield at BD last season, but if he wants to play at No. 10 I'd give him a go as clearly Rooney isn't cutting it there at the moment. I'm expecting Rooney to be dropped for the Leicester game, about time too...

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> I may have been wrong about last season but then

> who wasn't. One thing that has not changed is

> celtic are still shite in Europe


I really don't understand "your team is shite.." posts. What's the point?

???? Wrote:

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> Absolutely terrible and not much to be optimistic

> about except we're not bottom - I'd give Bilic 5

> more games to turn it round. And I wouldn't have

> BFS back before you ask.



Careful what you wish for. ;-)

Shite yes but it's early and the triple bogey of injuries stadium and newcomers will work itself out. Still not worried- though will always loathe the stadium - it is crap for football.


Zaza though... and Masuaku...? strange bit of business or are they geniuses in (bloody good) disguise(s)?

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