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Course not. Tan has kept this in his back pocket for the perfect revenge served cold


Irrelevant ultimately tho


( although my opinion of tan has increased exponentially. "Spend my money suspiciously and think you will get away with it? I don't think so")


Out of interest otta, if you hadn't read the texts why would you even want to be agreeing with 'arry on the subject?

I'm with SJ and Quids on this. Those texts are absolutely shameful and for it to be written off as banter by the managers association is a bloody disgrace. There is absolutely no room in society for racism. And as for rent-a-gob Harry coming out and trying to defend Mackay is not only ridiculous but he has seriously made a complete tit of himself.

It's as though these men live in a parallel universe where:


"yes, we all have to be PC now and not say this stuff - but really it's still awright between mates innit, I mean, we know what we mean, there's no offence intended, I've got black mates for crimminy's sake!."


-is the default position. The fact that no it isn't 'awright' and that it really, really DOES matter is what needs to be hammered home.


Career ending? No. As long as there's contrition, genuine understanding as to WHY it is unacceptable and proof that the lesson is learned.

Quoted paragraph from Harry relates to two things


whether it's wrong, which it is, but what punishment is appropriate to the crime.


Also harry knows when someone has it in for someone they will go to the lengths of checking all available information just to screw him over which harry knows has happened here.


Don't tell me Cardiff just stumbled across this information....

I said the opposite mick - I said tan has deliberately chosen his moment. And that his motivation is irrelevant to the charge


What punishment do you think is appropriate?


I'm with maxxi - there should be a shot at redemption but I get the feeling mackay doesn't even think he has done anything wrong, not really. So how can there be redemption and a return to football. He won't starve if he doesn't.

The issue for me here is less to do with the rather obvious issue of the Mackay racism and much more to do with opening peoples eyes as to the power an employer has through ownership of all of your personal messaging emails and texts.


This most of us know. But what's wrong here is that the employer has gone looking. This happens in most termination cases. In my view its wrong.


Harry was dead right in that someone was out to get him. Hence I chose that paragraph. It's a football thread but it's the employment law angle is more interesting.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> I'm with SJ and Quids on this. Those texts are

> absolutely shameful and for it to be written off

> as banter by the managers association is a bloody

> disgrace. There is absolutely no room in society

> for racism. And as for rent-a-gob Harry coming out

> and trying to defend Mackay is not only ridiculous

> but he has seriously made a complete tit of

> himself.


Is this the same Harry that the media were so anxious to give the England job to?

Otta Wrote:

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> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premie

> r-league/paul-scholes-manchester-united-need-five-

> experienced-players-who-can-turn-round-a-desperate

> -situation-9681747.html

>

> "Let us be clear about one thing. I am sick of

> having to criticise the club to which I gave my

> life as a footballer. But this is a United team

> that lost seven league games at Old Trafford last

> season and began on Saturday by losing at home to

> Swansea. United need to arrest their decline. In

> those years under Sir Alex Ferguson, when trophy

> followed trophy, this sort of mediocrity was

> unthinkable. But it is happening."

>

> "It is not all Van Gaal?s fault. The problems have

> been there for a while. I suppose I should have

> realised that the very fact I was still playing

> for United at 38 years old was a sign that there

> was not enough pressure on us senior players from

> those coming into the side. It was the same last

> season with Ryan. At times last season he was the

> best player on the pitch, at the age of 40."

>

> Thoughts from United fans?


Bit busy last week to answer this. Can't argue with what Scholes says, LVG said straight away that the squad is unbalanced, too many No.9s and 10s. Defensive midfield has been neglected for perhaps 4 to 5 years. Not sure it will even get addressed this transfer window. Vidal would be perfect but hard to shift from Juve, Strootman at Roma too, but he's coming bck from a bad knee injury, could be a January buy with de Jong as a stop gap. Roja is a good buy but we could still do with a.n.other CB.

Although it would be sad to see local lad Welbeck leave, he will probably benefit playing regular football elsewhere. Di Maria would be some upgrade though...

Sunderland 1 - United 1, Moyes managed wins against both Swansea and Sunderland. Somebody owes him an apology. Di Maria must be begging to stay at Madrid. He's thinking to himself I'm playing in thye Champions League with Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, Benzema, and with that shower I'll be playing with Cleverley, Smalling, Jones, Young.

If the team/supporters don't respect/support their manager, he's on borrowed time.


Happened with Moyes. Will it happen again with LVG?


Not sure. He just needs to realise that they're not the Dutch world cup squad and has to adjust to a different way of thinking.

Good to see 'arry getting a warm reception from the Spurs fans. Also good to see Lamela showing his talent. Couldn't have been easy having such a big price tag and moving to a new country at such a young age. Having a fellow Argentinian as manager has obviously helped. Sherwood didn't strike me as the 'arm around the shoulder' type...

Injuries didn't help either. The same goes for Capoue who looked really solid especially when covering for the full-backs as they went forward. I think Sandro will find it tough to get back in the side. Dier has also proved to be a shrewd purchase. Anyway, the real test is when Spurs play a halfway decent team.


Umm.... Liverpool next.... *Shudders*

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