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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> So the big change as you perceive it is you now

> have a better manager (one who was sacked from his

> last two jobs)



Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for top managers. Your likely next manager just got sacked from Chelsea.

BFS is a distant memory and he has his work cut out at Sunderland, particularly after the Johnson case. For me though, football is an entertainment and when I'm not entertained (for good or bad), I stop paying. That's what Allardyce did, he stopped me going for he first time in 30 years.


So, I understand your opinion RD and AM, try to understand mine.


It's not like MUFC or their supporters behaved any better with Moyes, is it?

Moyes took us from Champions to 7th in the blink of an eye. At least with BFS there was an end product despite the dogshit football. He got you promoted at the first attempt and then kept you in the PL. Yes it's nice to be entertained, but sometimes you have to walk before you can run. I have no problem with WH fans complaining about the dogshit football in his 3rd season, that was the time to sack him, kick on with a new manager, but the owners saw otherwise. What I can't understand is this refusal to accept BFS achieved some very important things for the club, especially as it was a crucial time with the move to the OS looming. You certainly can't say that about Moyes, he left us with Fellaini FFS :)...

Otta Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > So the big change as you perceive it is you now

> > have a better manager (one who was sacked from

> his

> > last two jobs)

>

>

> Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for top

> managers. Your likely next manager just got sacked

> from Chelsea.


Er, depends on how you define a top manager. JM I suspect was sacked for reasons which were not strictly football related. What other 'top' manager has been sacked from a club other than Real Madrid?

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Alan Medic Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > So the big change as you perceive it is you

> now

> > > have a better manager (one who was sacked

> from

> > his

> > > last two jobs)

> >

> >

> > Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for

> top

> > managers. Your likely next manager just got

> sacked

> > from Chelsea.

>

> Er, depends on how you define a top manager. JM I

> suspect was sacked for reasons which were not

> strictly football related. What other 'top'

> manager has been sacked from a club other than

> Real Madrid?



Brian Clough

red devil Wrote:

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> The BBC were asking which manager has been the

> worse, the evidence against Ian Dowie was pretty

> damning...



Roeder for me - took us down with a crop of amazing young players: Cole; Defoe; Lampard; Carrick etc (and a decent squad), Result we lost most of them to Chelsea; a couple of seasons before I though we were really going to challenge for some silverware with that lot in our ranks. Devastated us (financially too).

Ah yes, the Greg Dyke approach to football (or at least the excuse/argument put forward by suits when fans realise there is shit happening that is masquerading as 'progress') - You're all living in the past.


A bit like wanting affordable tickets eh doc? Or being against a European super league? Maybe wanting a return to a European Champions Cup to be ONLY for champions? Or wanting to watch attractive football?


Bloody luddites.

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