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[titch juicy]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> titch juicy Wrote:

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> > You could argue that they were a great club in

> the

> > middle of the last century when they won a few

> FA

> > Cups or the first decade of the last century

> when

> > they won the league a few times, but now

> they're

> > just an average club with some very distant

> > history and high attendances.

>

> I would argue they are still a great club, but

> I'll ask again, what do you think makes a great

> club?

Why do you think they're still a great club? Because they get a lot of fans through the door? That to me means they have great fans, but that's not enough to make them a great club.

[Parkdrive]

That's interesting. I agree with much of what you say, and what's also interesting is the fact that you've left out Chelsea. Although I'd agree with your omission there, purely because they are toxic from top to bottom.

[red devil]

Toon's attendances are indeed impressive for such a regular underperforming club, but you also have to remember that like Leeds, they don't have a same city rival, and therefore have the whole city catchment area to themselves. It probably explains why they have such a strong local identity...

[red devil]

???? Wrote:

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> Well, I think we should have won that. Man U are a

> shadow of the team they used to be and I'm

> reasonably confident we'll do them at our place.

What Quids said, see, we can agree sometimes :)

Looking forward to the replay, big away support, happy days...

[????]

When Man U fans and players seem genuinely happy with a draw...at OT.... against West Ham.... you know the club's got problems. Should be a cracker under the lights...though our last ever game there will be against Man U under the lights too!

[Jah Lush]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> No, we're in the same category. We're nothing like

> a 'great club' as it stands. If we embark on a

> period of success now, then perhaps we could be

> considered such, as we have at times in the past.

> I would say we're closer than Newcastle though.

You're forgetting our glorious history. Of course we're a great club. Far more successful than Newcastle.

COYS!

[titch juicy]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> titch juicy Wrote:

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> > No, we're in the same category. We're nothing

> like

> > a 'great club' as it stands. If we embark on a

> > period of success now, then perhaps we could be

> > considered such, as we have at times in the

> past.

> > I would say we're closer than Newcastle though.

>

> You're forgetting our glorious history. Of course

> we're a great club. Far more successful than

> Newcastle.

>

> COYS!

They've won twice as many leagues as us

[Jah Lush]

Yeah, last time being back in the 1927. We've won far more trophies and were the first to do the double last century. First British club to win a major European trophy... blah blah blah. Our history is far superior. Jeez, call yourself a Spurs fan.

[????]

yeah, but you never won the World Cup :)

[titch juicy]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Yeah, last time being back in the 1927. We've won

> far more trophies and were the first to do the

> double last century. First British club to win a

> major European trophy... blah blah blah. Our

> history is far superior. Jeez, call yourself a

> Spurs fan.

I don't call myself a blinkered Spurs fan. More a realistic one.

[Otta]

I really think Spurs are going in the right direction and will remain "up there" for the foreseeable future.

But I still desperately want Leicester to win the league this season.

[????]

it's all a bit fluid - throughout the 80s the big 5 who led all the TV negotiations etc were Liverpool, Man U, Everton, Arsenal & Spurs.

[????]

Anyway, West Ham have already sold 46,000 season Tickets at the OS...."you'll never fill it" "careful what you wish for" etc

[titch juicy]

???? Wrote:

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> Anyway, West Ham have already sold 46,000 season

> Tickets at the OS...."you'll never fill it"

> "careful what you wish for" etc

Smart move by the porn barons pricing the season tickets at ?289 (incredibly low price- comes in at ?15 a home game, not counting any cup allowance. That's a League 2 pricing point). But, guaranteed cashflow and increased fanbase.

A lot of armchair Essex fans who couldn't be arsed with the journey to Upton Park have now snapped them up, with the easy journey into Stratford.

West Ham could be up there for some time too.

[Mick Mac]

???? Wrote:

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> it's all a bit fluid - throughout the 80s the big

> 5 who led all the TV negotiations etc were

> Liverpool, Man U, Everton, Arsenal & Spurs.

Yeah - Everton, whatever happened to them.....

Oh - and Man United, same :)

[red devil]

???? Wrote:

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> Anyway, West Ham have already sold 46,000 season

> Tickets at the OS...."you'll never fill it"

> "careful what you wish for" etc

Glory hunters!... :)

[Jah Lush]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Jah Lush Wrote:

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> > Yeah, last time being back in the 1927. We've

> won

> > far more trophies and were the first to do the

> > double last century. First British club to win

> a

> > major European trophy... blah blah blah. Our

> > history is far superior. Jeez, call yourself a

> > Spurs fan.

>

> I don't call myself a blinkered Spurs fan. More a

> realistic one.

Who does? Yeah, don't let the facts get in the way of the truth.

Newcastle are only considered big because of the bums on seats at home games.

[red devil]

C'mon you two, it's only Arsenal fans that scrap amongst themselves...

[Parkdrive]

Does Manchester have a same city rivalry after all only one of the two is actually in Manchester? Just saying

[ntprops]

edited.

[earlydoors]

There's a possibility of a Leicester City v Watford community shield at the start of next season.

I wonder what the odds on that would have been at beginning of this season?

[????]

I dunno but if Watford win the cup I am ?150 up and if West Ham do I'm ?250 up with with ?8 at risk so plenty to play with...a big bet on Palace for sure

[red devil]

Leicester were 5000/1 to win the PL at the beginning of the season, not sure what price Watford were for the Cup, but a conservative 100/1 makes it a cool half a million to 1...

[????]

they were 75s I think I can check ;)

[red devil]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> Does Manchester have a same city rivalry after all

> only one of the two is actually in Manchester?

> Just saying

Manchester United

Sir Matt Busby Way

Old Trafford

Manchester

M16 0RA

Trafford is a borough of Manchester, just as Islington is a borough of London. Just saying...