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Whatever the merits of lack of of chains, supermarket express shops opening up everywhere is grimly depressing 

they are very expensive.  Often seem to attract sketchy characters and need a security guard 

doesn’t matter if it’s se22, Crouch End or Ludgate Circus.  Ugly banality 

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21 hours ago, alice said:

Was Tesco before the 711 because I can’t remember Tesco?

I've been here since around 1990 (gasp) and I don't remember a Tesco on that site either.

1 hour ago, Peckhamgatecrasher said:

Am I the only one to mourn the loss of Poundland?

Will no one think of the peeps who need to buy cheap cigarette papers and filters in bulk?

You will have to walk to Peckham!

I remember Tesco- it was on the corner of North Cross Road where Superdrug is now. Very small if I remember correctly.  We shop in Pound land - having discovered that shampoo and conditioner (brand names) were only £1 each. Good selection of most things that we need on a regular basis. It is better than the one in Peckham. Never noticed loud music when I have been in there and have always found the staff helpful and cheerful.

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On 29/05/2025 at 11:54, holloway said:

LL has always reminded me of Crouch End. Went to Crouch End a while ago and three huge supermarkets now dominate it. Soulless. 

I went to CE last weekend for the first time in 30 years at the weekend. I wouldn't describe it as soulless. Beautiful town hall with attractive square, nice bakery, restos, etc, etc. I wish LL was as nice, tbh. 

And I blame the rapacious landlords for the decay!

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13 hours ago, mlteenie said:

I went to CE last weekend for the first time in 30 years at the weekend. I wouldn't describe it as soulless. Beautiful town hall with attractive square, nice bakery, restos, etc, etc. I wish LL was as nice, tbh. 

And I blame the rapacious landlords for the decay!

A town square would be nice. Perhaps we could pedestrianise North cross Road and create a square at the junction of Lordship Lane. Can't imagine there would be any objections / controversy. 

10 hours ago, Moovart said:

I bet the rents in Crouch End are higher than in ED so not sure the logic holds up.

This is probably true, but the issue is not so much the level of the rent, but the degree to which it is sustainable in the context of the local market. The Landlords locally do seem to have squeezed rents to the point where places can no longer survive in many cases.

On 31/05/2025 at 05:47, satsuma said:

And what a furore there was when it opened...

Think the furore was largely manufactured tbf.

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I used to enjoy the 50p shop in Liverpool, it merged with it's sister pound shop in 1999

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsliverpool/lost-liverpool-shop-never-charged-more-than-50p-for-anything/ar-AA1rB1Z6

According to BoE inflation calculator it would be the £1.60 shop if still around now, although based on the increase in a pint of beer more like the £4 shop, or the reliable mars bar inflation indicator about £3.

That of course is the issue with the premise that everything will remain at a certain price.  There were three pound stores in Peckham, one had a strange strap line that many products were a pound or less, so many were over a quid (pre Covid days).

 

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