Swearing and the use of profanity

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Most Unseemly....B)

[Administrator]

Just to clarify, and as citizenED says, context is all. This is a thread about swearing and some threads in the Lounge are likened to being down the pub with friends and swearing is considered acceptable. However when there is sensible discussion in the other areas of the forum some people are offended by unnecessary and continued use of the F and C words. People do not use those words on Question Time, in pre-school nurseries, in front on the in-laws etc, the point being that to some people it is not the done thing to say fukcing cnut (and similar) in mature conversation, it offends, and I would ask people to respect other users of the forum. I have to consider everyone on this forum to keep it a decent place, if you do not like that then fuck off you bunch of fuck twats and stick your fuck up your @#$%&'s fuck. Twice.

[HonaloochieB]

Hear fucking hear.

[david_carnell]

But the uses of the "f-2ord" are so brilliantly varied:

Greetings "How the fuck are you?"

Fraud "I was fucked by the McDonalds Drive Through."

Dismay "Oh, fuck it."

Trouble "Well, I guess I'm fucked again."

Aggression "Fuck you!!!"

Disgust "Fuck me!!!"

Confusion, Curiosity or Disbelief "What the fuck....?"

Difficulty "I don't understand this fucking thing."

Despair "Fucked again."

Good Job "Congratufuckinglations."

Desperation "Fuckityfuckfuckfuck."

Incompetence "He fucks up everything."

Disappointment "This fucking fucker is fucked."

Intelligence "He's a fucking genius."

Dismissal "Why don't you go outside and play hide-and-go-fuck-yourself?"

Displeasure "What the fuck is going on?"

Lost "Where the fuck are we?"

Disbelief "Unbefuckinglievable!!!"

Retaliation "Up your fucking ass!!!"

Laziness "He's just a fuck-off."

Pain "Fuck ! that hurt."

Pleasure "Oooooooh Fuuuuuuck"

Love "Do ya Fuck on first dates?"

Starting a relationship "Let's fuck now!"

Surprise "Fucking hell what was that?"

Admiration "Nice fucking tits!"

Stupid person "Dumbfuck!"

Hate "You Fuck!"

Condemnation "Fuck that shit!"

Disappointment "That's not fucking fair."

A poker hand "A Royal Fuck."

Ignorant person "Fuckstick."

Denial "I didn't fucking do it."

Perplexity "I know fuck all about it."

Apathy "Who gives a fuck" or "I don't give a fuck".

Confusion "What the fuck just happened?"

Resignation "Oh fuck it."

Suspicion "Who the fuck are you?"

Panic "Let's get the fuck out of here!"

Directions "Fuck off."

Sex "Let's fuck."

Maternal "Motherfucker."

Incestuous "Motherfucker."

Ambiguity "I'm not so fucking sure."

Agreement "Absofuckinglutely."

Questioning Authority "Who the fuck do you think you are?"

Hypocrisy "Don't you dare fucking swear at me you fucking fucker."

Praising the Lord "Jesus Fucking Christ."

I have a headache "Go fuck yourself."

Refusal "Oh you can fuck right off."

Pissed off "Fuck the fucking fuckers!"

Be quiet "Shut the fuck up."

You're right "Fucking oath." (Australianism)

Ostentation "He's just bought a big, fuck-off Mercedes."

Sensuousness "She was wearing a pair of red leather, fuck-me boots."

Confidence "Fuckin' A."

Rage "Motherfucking fuckers!"

Impressed "That was fucking amazing."

Oral sex after 30 years of marriage "Fuck you!" (while passing each other in the hall)

Bewilderment or Ignorance "Fucked if I know."

Enraged "I'm gonna fuck you up!"

Annoyance "Fuck off, fucker."

Annoyance "For fuck's sake."

Pissed off "Fuck you, you fucking fuck."

Tardiness "It's ten-fucking-thirty already?"

Broken down motorcycle "Sir, the fucking fucker has fucked up on me.

Professional appraisal of mechanical failure "It's fucked."

Calling someone "Oy, fuck face!"

Minors "Fucklings."

Morons "Fucktards."

Thanks "Fuck you very much."

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

D_C masquerading as Cyrano de Bergerac?

[Jamma]

INterestingly the word vagina derives from the latin (or something like that) for sheath, ie it's defining a lady's ladybits purely in relation to what a man does with it.

C*nt on the other hand has it's roots in the word for triangle, so is simply descriptive and therefore a better word all round surely.

[HonaloochieB]

I remember reading once that it came about as a corruption of the name of the river Kennet. Apparently the ancestors thought all life derived from there, hence...

[SteveT]

I thought it was derived from 'cut'(?)

[Keef]

I love swearing, but do try to use it sparingly so as to give it extra effect... My mate who could represent Britain in a swearing contest told me the other day that his hotmail account was closed down for him swearing too much. I didn't think that was possible!

[*Bob*]

SteveT Wrote:

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> I thought it was derived from 'cut'(?)

I thought it's origins could be traced back to the reign of King Canute, who - despite successfully achieving an alliance of the English and Danish kingdoms which lead (in part) to a golden age of dominance across Scandinavia as well as within the British Isles - was actually a bit of a c unt

[SteveT]

Little boy looking at his mum as she leaves the shower, said what's that, pointing to her groin.

She said 'that's where the devils axe fell'.

Little boy said 'wow, it got you right in the c#nt

[MadWorld74]

Pete and Dud did it best.....on live radio

[Jah Lush]

Pete n' Dud in their Derek & Clive mode would never have made it onto the radio.

[bignumber5]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> SteveT Wrote:

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> > I thought it was derived from 'cut'(?)

>

> I thought it's origins could be traced back to the

> reign of King Canute, who - despite successfully

> achieving an alliance of the English and Danish

> kingdoms which lead (in part) to a golden age of

> dominance across Scandinavia as well as within the

> British Isles - was actually a bit of a c unt

On the origins of profanities, f**k is derived from a prison term in the 19th century - rapists would have the 4 letters painted on their door as an abbreviation of Forced Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Does that mean that one of the modern uses of the word (to f**k someone) is to imply that they have not consented?

Isn't language a wonderfully colourful thing!?

I'm in the "context and frequency" camp of argument, despite being a bit of a potty mouth myself - having a banter involves loose language when the parties involved are comfortable with that: I have a couple of old rugby mates that I greet with "ay oop, c**t" and they to me (I forget when it started or why) but they were both good enough to drop the habitual greeting on my wedding day. Context. Similarly, when i hear people swearing who do not normally do so, i am aware that it has a far greater impact than when i do. And when I hear true gutter talk (F every other word) i think it sounds unnaturally vulgar. Frequency. (just one reason of many why i hate Gordon Ramsey)

Also, I suspect being an arse-licking admin-suck-up though this will be, the tone of a conversation calls for moderation of use - when making a serious point against someone who takes the opposite view, profanities imply aggression. Talking pants about things that don't matter to either party can have some slack cut.

[mockney piers]

There are about a million origins of f*ck, alot of the like the one above or "Fornication Under Consent of the King", all of which are unfounded.

Noone absolutely knows but the most convincing explanation is we got it off all our north sea neighbours, Dutch, Swedes, Danes, Germans who all have a similar word fokken, fukka, fikken meaning to thrust and by association, to bonk (you see what I did there?) and has been recorder in English since the 15th century, but is probably older than that.

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World Wide Words

[SeanMacGabhann]

still, it's nice to have that c**t bignumber5 back in posting action, what?

There are many reasons to dislike Ramsay btw (and more than one to admire him) but the straw that broke the camel's back for me were the Gin ad's - not for any "selling out" aspect particularly - more for the fact that having sworn at me through the telly for not having any passion, bo**ocks or send to avoid sh1te brands - he goes and picks a mediocre-at-best brand to hawk

[Brendan]

I was also going to point out that most other Western Germanic languages (German and Dutch specifically) have a similar sounding profanity so it's origin could be pretty old going back to Anglo Saxon times even.

Curiously the Irish use fek then which is often interchangeable but doesn?t necessarily mean bumping uglies.

[HonaloochieB]

I think the Irish use of the word 'feck' is the polite form of the word and does not have any sexual meaning.

The kind of expletive a person could use in the company of a bishop without causing offence.

I have this from an impeccable source - Mrs Doyle from Fr Ted.

In the episode where that hussy of a writer comes to the island and causes all sorts confusion in Fr Crilly,

causing him to question his vocation, Mrs D criticises her use of earthy language in her novels for including the "The 'F' word father, you know the bad 'F' word"

[Guest]

In Dutch the verb for breeding/rearing animals is 'fokken' - leading to the traditional joke about Jan going to England for the first time and, when asked what he does for a living, says (...I'm sure you can make up the punchline for yourselves).