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aquarius moon Wrote:

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> If you personally haven't experienced something

> yet, doesn't mean it won't happen, so why not keep

> an open mind?

> In case it does.


It's not such a great argument IMO. We all rule things out that we consider impossible or ridiculous.. to one degree or another. Are you open to the idea of it raining custard tomorrow, across the whole of South London? Or turning into a wombat on the stroke of midnight?

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> root,

> Just because you don't believe in something, don't

> belittle those that do.

> As for the 'mind over matter' comment you made, I

> can assure you it works, otherwise I might not be

> here now.


Just because some (or a lot) of people believe in something doesn't make it less stupid.


>

> If you were a regular poster and I knew you, I'd

> be able to prove it by going into more detail.

> But I don't, so I won't.


Thanks for sparing me. If you have a result, put it out in the open in a way that it can be reviewed and reproduced.


>

> If you personally haven't experienced something

> yet, doesn't mean it won't happen, so why not keep

> an open mind?

> In case it does.


Because there's a name for doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. It's called stupid.

Louisa Wrote:

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> Whether you think it's stupid or not why not just

> let those people have those beliefs? It's causing

> no harm to anyone.

>

> Louisa.


Religion is hardly harmless. Besides the child abuse of indoctrinating children with beliefs that can't be substantiated, not to mention the boys who have their genitals mutilated, here is just a couple of examples:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/08/swedens-foreign-minister-unrepentant-over-saudi-flogging-row


http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/01/creationism_in_texas_public_schools_undermining_the_charter_movement.html

What on earth does genital mutilation and religious endoctrination have to do with folklore surrounding ghosts and hauntings in the local area? What a pathetic way of taking a thread off topic. If you wish to discuss 'witchcraft' or religion or any form of mutilation, how about making a specific thread about those topics rather than doing it on this thread and scaring people off from commenting about the actual topic.


Louisa.

I once had this conversation with a 'dead' person (ghost) in the middle of a custard storm. It ended abruptly when he turned into a wombat, as I don't speak wombat. On the other hand I've spoken to idiots who claim to be able to talk to people on the other side of the world with a machine and even fly there if they want to. Huh.

Louisa Wrote:

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> What on earth does genital mutilation and

> religious endoctrination have to do with folklore

> surrounding ghosts and hauntings in the local

> area? What a pathetic way of taking a thread off

> topic. If you wish to discuss 'witchcraft' or

> religion or any form of mutilation, how about

> making a specific thread about those topics rather

> than doing it on this thread and scaring people

> off from commenting about the actual topic.

>

> Louisa.


Witchcraft and exorcism are paranormal activities. You can't just pick and choose the nice bits to suit you.

Ok so if we are talking about anything paranormal and of the fairytale variety, do you suggest we have no belief systems at all? There is no solid foundation for any religious or belief system in the world today, and yet billions of people still practise these faiths. Bad things happen in the name of organised religion, including abuse, forced marriages, mutilation, terrorism. There are ways of interpreting anything to suit your own ends. The things I am talking about on here are in no way connected.


Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:

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> Ok so if we are talking about anything paranormal

> and of the fairytale variety, do you suggest we

> have no belief systems at all? There is no solid

> foundation for any religious or belief system in

> the world today, and yet billions of people still

> practise these faiths. Bad things happen in the

> name of organised religion, including abuse,

> forced marriages, mutilation, terrorism. There are

> ways of interpreting anything to suit your own

> ends. The things I am talking about on here are in

> no way connected.

>

> Louisa.


They're very well connected. Gods are nothing but super powerful ghosts help good children pass exams if they stroke their ego with prayer and let kids die of hunger in third world countries just because of mysterious ways. And just as you have mediums trying to talk to the dead you get priests, imams, prophets, ...

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