Police/Bailiffs in La Avril boutique this evening

[unlurked]

The shop wasn't closed due to zero hour contracts! BTW no worker wants them,thats tory propaganda.

[uncleglen]

The op said this government's policies- in fact most of the problems we have are a result of the previous government's rubbish policies- allowing the proliferation of gambling opportunities (Tessa Jowell) means people have less money to spend on other things. Labour allowed the banks to do what they liked (Gordon Brown gave the Bank of England a free hand). It was Labour that allowed central government to override local government planning issues (John Prescott). Energy prices have been high since before this government due to green taxes.

[????]

So survey research buy the cipd made up the 30pc who said they liked them and the 30pc who were indifferent then unlurked? You,re the one swallowing propaganda....

[unlurked]

Well we all know about stats and lies.

ZHC lets see - never know if you will have work so how can anyone plan for bills, shopping etc. Do not have the same employment rights as other employees. Can be given work or be sent home at a whim of boss. No job security. Etc. It's still not why shop shut.

[????]

It,s a survey, asking people you know actual people with those contract..we do indeed know about lies....

[????]

Not everyone at every stage of their life seek security and some quite happy with flexibility.....not saying these are all willingly entered into, universally liked or never abused but they DO suit some people. Read the research not the propoganda....

[unlurked]

Do you really think the actual people asked in the survey, those with ZHC, would tell the truth? They are petrified of not getting anymore work,(hours),given as a punishment. And its still not why knicker shop shut.

[????]

Well it,s a bit more scientific than your opinion and general right on we know what,s good for other people better than they do.......

[????]

But not why the knicker shop shut, agree

[grace3]

it always amazes (spelt wrong beause I never use it) me about people on 'steady' work gurn about downturns and 'creditcrunch's' If they are on a good weekly/monthly wage then I can't see what difference it makes.

[Louisa]

Credit crunch? What credit crunch? Most people in the ED bubble seem more concerned about chain shops opening up rather than worrying about a high street collapsing altogether.

Louisa.

[Cedges]

I know several people that have zero hour contracts willingly as it allows them to pick up casual shifts at various workplaces without having the hassle of having to submit personal tax returns as their work goes through the books and PAYE. Whilst not the case for everyone, the benefits of zero hour contract for SOME is hardly propaganda.

[NewWave]

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> But not why the knicker shop shut, agree

BTW back on topic...The knicker shop which is next door hasn't closed.

La Avril was a clothing boutique.

[Otta]

I line manage 30 people who are on zero hour contracts. I have been looking in to getting them a better deal, but about 4 of them have actually said to me they like things as they are, because although they don't get sickness/holiday pay (actually their hourly rate does incorporate a holiday premium, so it's not actually correct to say they don't get paid holiday), they like that they can basically choose when they want to go away, and tell me they're not available for work.

[Penguin68]

Zero-hour contracts can be very good for those at the higher end of the skill spectrum, they allow flexible working and portfolio of jobs. Often they are used to allow what are, in effect, call-off contracts for individuals, without the need to go through tendering processes and recruitment every time.

They are bad for low-paid workers where the flexibility is all the employers, where the employer requires exclusivity and where e.g. only on-site but not travel between jobs time is paid for.

[singalto]

Whatever happened in La Avril, it is still open.

[the-e-dealer]

I expect the Police just needed some new Nickers.

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the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> I expect the Police just needed some new Nickers.

That joke is so bad you should be under a vest for it.

[LadyNorwood]

Haha you are so busted!

[NewWave]

unlurked Wrote:

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> the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> > I expect the Police just needed some new

> Nickers.

>

> That joke is so bad you should be under a vest for

> it.

I repeat...La Avril is NOT the knicker shop...the knicker shop is called Bloomers and is next door!

[tallulah71]

lighten up, NewWave...;)

[Cora]

Think it is probably very important for Bloomers (a great lingerie shop) not to be confused for a shop (La Avril) that such rumours are circulating about. I for one was beginning to wonder if it was closed, not great for business.

Think that is why new wave is making the point.

[Mike Dodd]

thought we are talking about a small shop having finacial problems not zero contracts or have I missed something ???

[NewWave]

Cora Wrote:

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> Think it is probably very important for Bloomers

> (a great lingerie shop) not to be confused for a

> shop (La Avril) that such rumours are circulating

> about. I for one was beginning to wonder if it was

> closed, not great for business.

>

> Think that is why new wave is making the point.

THANK-YOU Cora...That is EXACTLY why I was making a point of telling people to stop pointing fingers at the wrong business.

God knows its hard enough for small independent shops not on the 'main drag' without people assuming they've closed doen.

[ED - NAGAIUTB]

Mike Dodd Wrote:

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> thought we are talking about a small shop having

> finacial problems not zero contracts or have I

> missed something ???

No, just the usual suspects thread-jacking.