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It's weird how J-Ol inspires such bitterness.


He weathered a particularly vile campaign of abuse in his early days - for no particularly deserved reason other than coming across as a bit of a wally - and then becoming successful.


I find it hard to forgive his use of adjectives in recipe titling - but the recipes themselves are often very usable.

Have to agree with Mick Mac...


Used to love his shows.

Even with his tedious side kick gardener who made Andy Murray sound happy.



It's all the


'These little bad - boys' and 'Sprinkle' --- 'From a height'


All very irritating.. Unwatchable


It's a shame it's gone that way, but I guess television direction is to blame.


DulwichFox

I just dislike his holier than thou attitude.


Don't get me wrong, I'd rather my kids eat good stuff than chicken nuggets if they have school lunch, but...


Well this says it better than I can


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/27/jamie-oliver-poverty-ready-meals-tv

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Do you fuck1ng hate him too then, DF?

>

> I mean - absolutely fuck1ng HATE HIM?


No. I like Jamie Oliver.


Just no longer like the production of his TV shows.


DF.


P.S. Hate is a strong word. I don't 'Really Hate' anyone.

Well I guess that's my point.


How 'i am now disinterested in his tv programmes' somehow manages to become 'fuck1ing hate'. It's always been the way with Ol, but not with the others. I just find it a bit weird.



The current genre of 'me and my mate' cookshows is cack for sure, though I think Slater's is the worst. Massively smug. Shame - Nige is generally quite likeable.

I haven't had a TV for a couple of years since my last one broke. Can't be arsed with all the dross. I just watch things I'm interested in on my laptop instead.


Even put my laptop on the hinged shelf thing that used to hold my old portable TV in me bedroom when I'm watching films. Can't imagine buying a TV again, doesn't seem to be any reason to.


Amanda

He is pretty annoying, isn't he?


The loft apartment with the drum kit and endless supply of great mates

His Jamie's America series, when he insisted on calling everyone "brother"

The budget cookbook, with ingredients including "leftover roast lamb", and half a salmon


Although I think he's done commendable work with Fifteen and the school dinners thing, it's never done without a large dose of self promotion.

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Even put my laptop on the hinged shelf thing that

> used to hold my old portable TV in me bedroom when

> I'm watching films. Can't imagine buying a TV

> again, doesn't seem to be any reason to.


> Amanda


To get a considerable better film-watching experience than on a tiny laptop screen?

I had a small tv anyway and if my laptop, which is pretty big, is on the shelf thing, I don't get a crick neck from laying on my bed watching it sideways. Plus my daughter can see too when she is with me.


Probably sounds crap to you tv junkies with your big wall size plasma screens, but I'm not a fan of room dominating entertainment unless it's live (as in physically present) or in the cinema.

???? Wrote:

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> I still like him with his cliches an all.

> Successfull, hardworking, watchable, hearts in the

> right place and apparently a genuienely nice bloke

> in person......all a bit tall poppy for me.....


Yeah I agree.

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Probably sounds crap to you tv junkies with your

> big wall size plasma screens, but I'm not a fan of

> room dominating entertainment unless it's live (as

> in physically present) or in the cinema.


Yes, we too suffered from pre-large-screen angst. It's a common condition - cured by .. a large screen.


Now I regret 'the wasted years' before we got one.



Just don't stick it over the fireplace, for god's sake

I'm ambivalent, largely agree with quids and bob, but get DFs point about the aesthetics of the programmes.

It's all a bit too Network 7 isn't it.


Oh and ate in 15 once ....... never again. A worthy idea, but in practice it seemed to be a bunch of oiks living it up with their mates, burning the food and ignoring the customers whilst charging them a fortune for the privilege.


Whoops.


And didn't the pink slurry thing turn out to be a pile of half-truths and disinformation that he got sued for?

he got sued by an ex worker in the US who had lost his job because of the public recoiling from the product - don't think he got anywhere with it


I too thinkn JO is a decent cove and whilst his mannerisms (particularly in the American shows) grate, I suspct they are largely teh result of insecurities and shyness

I agree with quids.


I still have love for Old Jamie.


I think he helped make cooking 'cool' and accessible especially for young men. I bought his Naked chef cookbook in my 20's.


Also I cooked his porkchop recipe for one of my first dates with Mrs Dopamine.


:)

All the mockney b/s,"proper blokes fusilli", middle class adulation aside. His recipes are actually rather good.


Second thing, he's one of the strongest businessmen of all his peers. TV shows, shops, supermarket JV's and several restaurant lines globally. Ramsay, Worral-Thompson and many other have all screwed up massively where he hasn't. And he's out-earning all of them.

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