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It's also well out of the way, nowhere near Lordship Lane or North Cross Road, and hardly likely to get much passing trade .... you'd have to be a specialist destination shop for it to have any chance of working, I'd say.


It could/should have worked as a restaurant, given its location opposite the Rye, but - it didn't .....

NickT Wrote:

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> The Blackbird Bakery is for sale, it's on Zoopla

> for ?500k but I guess your not looking to buy just

> lease?



I heard Prettys grocers was up for grabs.....woohhhh, just tying to keep it light hearted!!

Speaking of the gardens cafe (electric engineers), it's a big unit, I wonder if the landlord has considered splitting it in two?



Sue Wrote:

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> That's a shame, are Blackbird leaving ED?


Blackbird rent the shop, the property is being sold tenanted.

Thanks everyone for your help so far. I work for a company called Natures Purest and we manufacture and sell baby products (toys, clothing, bedding, gifts etc) made from organic and ethical materials. www.naturespurest.co.uk if you'd like to check us out.

We like the look of East Dulwich as it is obviously very popular with families.

As for rent and rates, they can be shockingly high and some ask for a premium (a one-off payment, just for the privilege of paying rent each month).

I'm very biased but I think you come and check out lovely Honor Oak Park! It's only a mile from Lordship Lane, loads of families and I bet your products would go down a storm here.


Our little parade of shops includes a deli, an organic beauty salon, a little boutique with homeware, clothes and jewellery, a Sainsbury's Local, a tapas bar and a new sourdough gourmet pizza place alongside the usual newsagents, chippy etc.


I'm sure there are a few vacant units at the moment. Might be worth a look.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Speaking of the gardens cafe (electric engineers),

> it's a big unit, I wonder if the landlord has

> considered splitting it in two?

>

>

> Sue Wrote:

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> -----

> > That's a shame, are Blackbird leaving ED?

>

> Blackbird rent the shop, the property is being

> sold tenanted.


xxxxxx


It's presumably not available to be rented by somebody else, then. Glad Blackbird are staying!

Sue Wrote:

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> It's also well out of the way, nowhere near

> Lordship Lane or North Cross Road, and hardly

> likely to get much passing trade .... you'd have

> to be a specialist destination shop for it to have

> any chance of working, I'd say.

>

It could/should have worked as a restaurant, given

its location opposite the Rye, but - it didn't



It didn't because in line of sight 400mtres there was The Caf? on the Rye..

selling tea cakes and snacks at half the price.


The electrical shop is on a busy main road whereas The Caf? on the Rye has a safe area

for the kiddies to run around and where people can exercise their pooches.


and with the Clock House serving meals all day the electrical shop did/does not stand a chance.


Simples.


Foxy

It does stand a chance if the right business goes into it, what holds this back is the extortionate rent being asked for by the landlord coupled to the rates. You need to turn over approx ?45,000 per annum just to cover rent and rates there before you earn a penny. Am surprised the previous tenant survived so long before giving up.
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