Draft house

[Louisa]

SJ obesity in Italy has sky-rocketed and Italy now has a childhood obesity level of 42%, the highest in Europe.

also, want to know the damage pizza can do?

http://www.healthcentral.com/obesity/c/59238/161704/pizza-public-enemy-1/

Louisa.

[StraferJack]

Not SINCE pizza Louisa

As for the pizza stat... It's very much the processed pizza causing that, no?

[Mick Mac]

I have never been a regular pizza eater and it's never on our takeaway agenda. However a couple of times a year I'll do the Gowlett pizza, or on holiday in France it seems to pop up. But thin crust must have been the original and I can't see thin crust being particularly lardy. ??

[simonethebeaver]

Like any food, fine in appropriate quantities. And children need more carbohydrates than adults anyway. I say this as someone who eats very few simple carbs and can't remember the last time I ate a pizza.

[NewWave]

I'm gutted that a pizza restaurant is opening. for the dairy and gluten intolerant its just a drag finding nothing one can eat on a menu.

Would rather it was a decent japanese restaurant as I don't have one of those anywhere nearby (I don't call Catford and Chrystal palace on the doorstep)

Also for Pizza lovers theres Pizza Express in Dulwich Village and Sorsi and Morsi.

Do we really need another? yawn......

[DulwichFox]

simonethebeaver Wrote:

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> Like any food, fine in appropriate quantities. And

> children need more carbohydrates than adults

> anyway. I say this as someone who eats very few

> simple carbs and can't remember the last time I

> ate a pizza.

Children need slow acting carbs. low GI.( not found in pizza dough.)

To keep them physically active and mentally alert.

Also they need Fiber not found in pizza.

DulwichFox.

[simonethebeaver]

A good pizza (like Franco Manca) has nothing but flour in it. So not the best thing ever in the great scheme of things, but not exactly a diet disaster. I'm not sure why this thread is discussing revolting cheeseburger crust pizzas when they are not remotely what will be on offer.

[EmED]

SO excited! I love Franco Mancas :)

[Alex K]

"A youngster eating that bizarre looking creation must have the constitution of a cockroach" -- Louisa, please accept this chit against our first pint together. My round.

[????]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Absolutely DulwichFox. We walked to school because

> streets were safe, we ate homemade dinner for the

> most part and we played out in the streets. All

> things of the past.

>

> This interesting article in the Daily Mail puts

> things into perspective. I suggest some of you

> unhealthy parents have a read of this and take

> note.

>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540248/St

> udy-reveals-parents-poor-eating-habits-blame-child

> hood-obesity-NOT-fast-food.html

>

> Louisa.

Very interesting article Louisa - processed food is the main culprit.

Tell me, how's Iceland doing on the processed food fronT? just wondering.......

[shaunag]

We make home made pizza and bread. The dough is pretty much the same recipe, different quantities. The tomato sauce is blitzed tomatoes and herbs. We don't all do cheese owing to allergies, but the toppings are ham, mushrooms, and for my daughter sweet corn. Of you take a look at the ingredients on a loaf of bread now that's disgusting-there should only be about 4/5 ingredients. The bread bought in the shops (unless artisan) lasts way too long as it's full of junk. Pizza, and bread, cooked properly are not junk food. It's the convenience ones that are. If you want to call pizza posh cheese on toast, fine, it kind of is. But it's way more fun for kids. But junk? Only if you buy the greasy Pizza Hut/dominoes versions; but a cheese sandwich can equally be full of nasties. I'm not averse to the occasional take away; but I adore pizza and hate to hear it slagged off! Ps yes that cheeseburger pizza is revolting!

[nashoi]

There's no reason why pizzas can't be healthy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18663969

http://www.eatbalanced.com

[spanglysteve]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Absolutely DulwichFox. We walked to school because

> streets were safe, we ate homemade dinner for the

> most part and we played out in the streets. All

> things of the past.

>

> Louisa.

You crack me up Louisa, you bemoan that kids playing on the street is a thing of the past despite only recently venting your frustration of exactly that happening at Peckham Rye. I am seriously beginning to think that your posts are a knowing parody.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1275804,1275943#msg-1275943

[Earl Aelfheah]

Louisa is a troll, but not a dangerous one, quite a likeable one.... like this perhaps:

 

[85volga]

Edcam ,I looked through the front door and its as it was in the days of the draft house minus the bar taps , so nothing renovation wise has started yet.

[StraferJack]

could be a couple of reasons for that 85v - my money is on them going in every day, looking at that hump in teh middle of the building and wondering what the heck they are going to do with it (just as previous and future tenants/owners have and will)

more likely various planning stages need to be signed off before the hard graft starts in earnest

[DulwichFox]

Louisa is no Troll.

A Forum Troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people.

Louisa just expresses her personal views on topics being discussed here.

If those views are not the same as yours, that does not make her a Troll.

Forums are for discussion and people need to be able to express their views without being insulted or ridiculed.

Anyway Louisa doesn't need me to stand up for her. She is quite capable of looking after herself.

DulwichFox

[DulwichFox]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> could be a couple of reasons for that 85v - my

> money is on them going in every day, looking at

> that hump in teh middle of the building and

> wondering what the heck they are going to do with

> it (just as previous and future tenants/owners

> have and will)

They have the same set up in Kebab & Wine . next door. I believe they use the area for storage. ??

DulwichFox.

[????]

A troll is far too miserable and malovent(sp) a term for Louisa - I think she is an excelent wind up merchant though....

[StraferJack]

yeah underneath, there must be good use for the space in terms of storage

But for the flow of the bar/restuarant, and from a customer perspective it sucks the life out of the place

K&W is a different proposition - standard kebab/fruit out the front. The fact that it sometimes doubles as "a more atmospheric" restaurant out the back is something I suspect most other operations aren't trying to emulate

[DulwichFox]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> yeah underneath, there must be good use for the

> space in terms of storage

>

> But for the flow of the bar/restuarant, and from a

> customer perspective it sucks the life out of the

> place

>

> K&W is a different proposition - standard

> kebab/fruit out the front. The fact that it

> sometimes doubles as "a more atmospheric"

> restaurant out the back is something I suspect

> most other operations aren't trying to emulate

Back in the 80's.. The K&W Upstairs Rest. Was quite delightful..

With Check Oilskin Table clothes , Candles & Flowers..

It was a cosy rest. where one could take their partner for a romantic evening.

Similar but more intimate than the Blackheath shop.

How things have changed.

DulwichFox.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I did say a likeable one. Maybe troll's the wrong word. Certainly mischievous...

???? Wrote:

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> A troll is far too miserable and malovent(sp) a

> term for Louisa - I think she is an excelent wind

> up merchant though....

[bob]

Stab & Crime

Bob S

[Louisa]

rahrahrah have you been raiding my phones selfy collection when I've not been looking? ;-)

Thanks Fox and quids, I like to see myself as a sort of modern day cross between Mary Poppins and Katie Hopkins.

Louisa.

[StraferJack]

Speaking of...

Just read this tonight

"I don't think trolls, from Katie Hopkins down, realise how easy what they do is. They're just thrilled to find something they're good at."