wavyline girl Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I mean I had to laugh when they started calling it "Bellenden Village", but now it would appear thesupermarket on Bellenden Road has become a "Village Store" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesfare Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Where exactly is Bellenden Village? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavyline girl Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Peckham! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesfare Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Duh! I mean, where in relation to Bellenden Road? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavyline girl Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think it might have started as Estate agent hype, for the area behind Goose Green, centring around Bellenden road. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Everywhere around here there are villages- all joined together with tonnes of concrete and tarmac.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesfare Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Never heard human beings with actual souls refer to it like that. Gotta put the kibosh on that sort of nonsense pronto, it's a bit like when collonizers in the New World started renaming the roads. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Good To Be True Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 What about The Lyndhurst Toastrack? A classic from GJM Property...Surely Lyndhurst Ladder sounds better. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavyline girl Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 I will herd my cows past Ye Olde Village Store on the morrow, to find out what just hearty fayre they might have in store. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerTime Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Just a ridicuous ploy to sell an area as something it's not. It's a bit like selling factory made jam as rural homemade jam by putting a pretty rural label on it. Bellenden Road has never been part of a 'village'. It and the streets around it were built on the fruit gardens that predated it, from the 1870's onwards. It came along with the railway as part of the growing then suburbs of London. If estate agents were to do their research though, they would also find out that it was disproportionately occupied by French Huguenots in it's early days, hence businesses and streets with French names, like the Montpelier and Choumert Road. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavyline girl Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 ?and Muschamp Road I guess as well. Interesting.Come to think of it, that reminds me of another pretentious naming thing - people giving their shops French names! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 In Vienna, all the pretentious shops have English names. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Pretension is great. Don't know why people are so killjoy ish about itPretension over prosaic reality any day Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerTime Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Personally I never pay attention to the name of a business. If they are selling something I want to buy at a price I'm happy to pay then who cares what they call themselves. I like Bellenden Road. I like the cafe there (the breakfast one) and I've gotten happily drunk a few times in the Victoria Inn. It's still a Road that caters for everyone imo. But it's not a village - never has been and never will be. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Too Good To Be True Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What about The Lyndhurst Toastrack? A classic> from GJM Property...> > Surely Lyndhurst Ladder sounds better.There is a Ladder in Haringey, and a Toastrack in Wandsworth, so I guess they are aligning themselves with Wandsworth. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Herne Hill has been trying to claim village status for years. Probably worth 25% on house prices. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 charlesfare Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Never heard human beings with actual souls refer> to it like that. Gotta put the kibosh on that sort> of nonsense pronto, it's a bit like when> collonizers in the New World started renaming the> roads.New Zealand was once divided into 3 of the provinces of Ireland. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Businesses on Kirkdale between Dartmouthe Road and Cobb's Corner have started calling that area Kirkdale Village. I'm not sure that'll tske off. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I always thought my old school's name, Peckham Manor, sounded hugely pretentious. Delusions of grandeur or what. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Back to the OP... The Village Store is a daft name. But I like the shop. They've adapted well. Good fruit and veg. Good range of beer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I believe there used to be a Peckham manor, just as there was a Friern manor - so it was probably named in homage to the old estate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 market gardens, a line of houses, a green and a pond, you couldn't get villagier if you tried!!!*it ain't a google maps mashup so a bit clunkier than our poilt arses are used to these days. use the zoom button a couple of times and drag it south Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 1850sok strcitly speaking 'bellenden' itself was never a village, but definitely bucolic!!http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~1584~130073:The-Environs-Of-London--Published-B;jsessionid=E83170580D9F17C819B709970E0B22D1?showTip=false&showTipAdvancedSearch=false&title=Search+Results%3A+List_no+equal+to+%270149.071%27&thumbnailViewUrlKey=link.view.search.url&helpUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAbout_Luna_and_Insight.htm&fullTextSearchChecked=&advancedSearchUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAdvanced_Search.htm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggers Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The Village Store until recently was a basic quick-save kind of little supermarket, It found itself surrounded by very smart shops, including an organic type grocery store - ''General Stores'' with very smart front next to it. The little supermarket, which has always been useful, has risen to the challenge, smartened itself up, given itself a retro front makeover, changed its name and started to provide more interesting veg and provisions. Therefore not losing out to the newcomers.Talking to the guys who have run it for years, they are very pleased with the response of local consumers- they still provide for basic Peckham necessities but are also giving the new posh deli type places a run for their money.I think it looks great. They will also get veg in if you ask- I was asking for swedes.Isnt this the kind of smartening up you all wanted for Rye Lane?and before you mock, the little retro parade of shops on ST Johns Street in Islington was just such a row of scruffy shops that took a united decision to give themselves a retro makeover with old fashioned matching awnings...and the rest is history.Bellenden Road looks very pretty now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Couldn't agree more, Huggers. They still do the core range of groceries and essentials, but have responded to the changes in the area by providing what people want. They've also obvioulsy spotted a gap in the market for a greengrocer. Seems like a good example of how to run a small business. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/42847-pretentious-names/#findComment-735543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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