Awful experience at Peckham Rye park cafe

[Mustard]

How do you know they are ravens and not crows? Ravens are usually only in pairs, crows in larger groups.

[steve 1975]

I pop into the cafe most days and get a sandwich and a coffee, I thinks it's great. The fact it's In a Park where birds tend to live means you may get your food stolen if you leave it unattended? I really don't see how somebody can complain about that? Go inside if you don't like birds right?

[Mgdoble]

I have always found the staff very amenable and reasonable if things arent quite right, why didnt you press the issue? After you have watched the pigeons walking all over the outside seats and tables for a while it is also obvious its better to eat inside.

I go to the cafe on a regular basis, the coffee is great, and the filth level is acceptable if you accept the fact that the majority of the customers are families with small children. Unfortunately I have small children and we never leave without an unhealthily large mound of debris on the floor.

If you take it for what it is, my only real criticisms are the outrageous price of biscuits and snacks and the blisteringly loud music which is obviously for the benefit of the staff not the customers.

[PokerTime]

They could have been crows Mustard, but seemed a little too big to me.

[DulwichFox]

http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/images/drawings/raven_vs_crow_tail_feathers_wdfw.jpg

DulwichFox

[haruki]

They were probably Rooks, not Ravens.

PS - I think the cafe is usually pretty good, but I have had some sub-par toast there.

[aquarius moon]

The birds in Peckham Rye park are crows.

They are super intelligent. If you feed one when walking through the park, it will follow you like a dog from one end of the park to the other.

All the birds in the park need food to survive so they are obviously going to be drawn to the cafe where there is food for the taking. The same as seagulls are drawn to the beach.

It's up to cafe users to be prepared and protect their food if eating outside.

And the kind hearted ones can accidentally-on-purpose drop a few odd crusts of bread/bacon bits on the floor!

[PokerTime]

Somehow telling my 'birds' story will never be the same again. 50 crows following me just doesn't have the same ring as 50 ravens :(

[Mustard]

I like the crows. They are polite and have good manners, unlike the pigeons.

[giggirl]

Oh dear. I had someone's dog take a mouthful of my lunch when my back was turned once. You do need to be careful if you're eating outside.

[Huggers]

my dog stole some bread from the crows and the crows stalked him all the way across the park. Whenever he tried to lie down to eat his booty, they surrounded him and sent a scout forward who tried to peck his bottom and the dog would move just in time, like some kind of canine-bird game of grandmothers footsteps.

[DulwichFox]

I am no expert on wild birds but as Aquarius Moon stated ,

I too have always thought that they were Crows.

I know that AM has knowledge on such matters so would trust in her judgement.

DulwichFox.

[moondustt]

I have to say my experiences at the cafe are deteriorating, the bread is spongy and leaves alot to be desired. The last time i was there a waitress brought out a sandwich on the wrong bread but was adamant that it was what i ordered, she was rude and told me that i hadnt seen the waitress write down the bread i wanted (even though i did) i have found that the cleanliness has declined since it first opened where i ended up cleaning a table myself. The young people now working there cannot make a decent coffee. There should be pigeon and bird control enforcements put it place because birds are evolving to not care if you are sitting at the table or not. Although i appreciate the cumberland sausages the last one i had was greasy and undercooked. There scrambled egg was watery and also under cooked.

[peleparso]

steve 1975 Wrote:

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> I pop into the cafe most days and get a sandwich

> and a coffee, I thinks it's great. The fact it's

> In a Park where birds tend to live means you may

> get your food stolen if you leave it unattended? I

> really don't see how somebody can complain about

> that? Go inside if you don't like birds right?

Read it again. The food wasn't unattended. This was the same misunderstanding Robot Waitress kept repeating - if I had left it unattended I would have just slapped myself across the chops instead of complaining.