New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham

[Nigello]

THe whole place needs a bit of TLC. It is great the buses are back and that there are still biggish chains - Boots, Poundland, Primark, Superdrug, McD's, Argos but the bit going south from the station is not as lively and rather shabby (litter, vandalised shutters, etc.) Landlords don't seem to want to clean their properties' frontages and so go home and leave it all ugly for those who live, work and shop there.

[KidKruger]

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote:

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> Do you buy a lot of mutton and goat?

Not large volumes (kilo usually).

[malumbu]

My word it is dreadful, nowhere to buy reasonably priced meat, fish and fresh veg. Oh wait a second, we are talking Lordship Lane rather than Rye Lane aren't we?

[Nigello]

Good value food doesn?t have to mean shoddy, unwelcoming environments. Rye Lane is good and bad in parts and nobody - private owner or councillor - wants to take responsibility for the bad bits.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

I don't know about East Dulwich but it's all happening in West Dulwich:

- La Gastronomia is temporarily closed, apparently for renovations - at least they're moving stuff around inside. Hopefully the back garden and greenhouse will have a spruce up, as it could be a really nice little space

- Sheriff Coffee inside West Dulwich Station has reopened (or just rebounded?) as Colibri. Didn't get a chance to see whether the coffee has improved, but the pastries look the same as always

- the new grocer/organic/eco supplies store has opened up at 10 Croxted Rd. I think it's called hummingbird or something. It looks very nice inside.

- Peace & Riot has (hopefully temporarily) closed due to COVID restrictions.

[legalalien]

And hopefully Walters Wine Bar (where Cafe Rouge was) will open just in time for the end of Dry January:

https://www.instagram.com/waltersdulwich/?hl=en-gb

[Rockets]

Did I hear correctly that the old bank in Dulwich Village might become an Ivy Brasserie?

[legalalien]

Really? I've long thought it would make a good restaurant.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Is it big enough inside for an Ivy? It's quite a demanding franchise. There's not much room for deliveries etc...but what do I know.

[Nigello]

I think it is a bit small, but who knows. Also, what about deliveries and the like? We all know we need more mid-range dining options lest we starve and start to go mad with boredom...!

[gebbjane]

Don?t know the size of the old Bank but maybe if true will be more like an Ivy Cafe as in Blackheath and Marylebone same as the brasseries but on a smaller scale.

[ED Light]

Chener books having a refit I hope??

[goldilocks]

They had a note up in their window before Christmas saying they'd stay closed a bit longer as having some work done on the shop. Can't recall how long they said but don't think it was long.

[Rockets]

And on the Ivy Brasserie my concern would be where they would put the Ivy Asia as it seems that everywhere there is a Brasserie version an Asian version appears as if by magic next door!

[Sue]

Rockets Wrote:

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> And on the Ivy Brasserie my concern would be where

> they would put the Ivy Asia as it seems that

> everywhere there is a Brasserie version an Asian

> version appears as if by magic next door!

Also, there is already confusion with The Ivy House in Nunhead being mistaken for other Ivies, so this will make that worse!

[CPR Dave]

Heh, imagine turning up at the Ivy House expecting it to be an Ivy franchise.

[Sue]

CPR Dave Wrote:

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> Heh, imagine turning up at the Ivy House expecting

> it to be an Ivy franchise.

Or vice versa ..

[Asset]

I first heard the Dulwich Village bank/Ivy rumour about 3 years ago, I mean I know we've had a pandemic but something should have happened by now surely?

[kissthisguy]

Although the Ivy would be nice, wouldn't it be great to see a non-chain restaurant in Dulwich Village? Creative menus are to be found in Peckham eg the Kudu places, Levan, Forza Wine. Shame ED's Terroirs closed and the orig Palmerston is no more. Is it that only chains can afford the rents?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Think it might be to do with rents, yes. I agree it?s a shame.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Is it the Estate that's the landlord of the old bank or someone else?

[Sue]

kissthisguy Wrote:

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Shame ED's

> Terroirs closed and the orig Palmerston is no

> more. Is it that only chains can afford the rents?

The story around the original Palmerston changing hands had nothing to do with rents.

It's a sorry saga. There's a thread on here somewhere.

[Rockets]

Ivy Brasserie/Asia has been on an aggressive expansion programme (seemingly around their existing sites) and perhaps Dulwich fell off the radar.

I agree it would be good to see non-chains but I suspect the rents don't allow that in the Village (and Lordship Lane now) and that's why Peckham is the place for good independent places.

[ed_pete]

A licensing application has been made by https://dropwine.co.uk/ for the premises that used to be the Pharmacy at the end of Melbourne Grove.

A planning application for change of use has been made for the premises that were GM's hairdressers on Melbourne Grove to use it as a doggy day-care centre.

[CPR Dave]

Lol a wine delivery service is going to go down really well with all the numbers in Melbourne Grove who don't like strangers using their road.