The death of british Youth Culture...

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..interesting article by Chris Sullivan, ex-soul boy and founder of the Wag

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/features/northern-soul-where-have-all-the-style-tribes-gone-9807056.html

The tribalism of the past was sometimes horrible but it also had a dynamism, energy and creativity that I miss in the days of non-conformity conformity - discuss

[StraferJack]

See also; politics

[numbers]

two things quids.

firstly - we are living in a time of globalisation now. The world has become more homogenEous, we can all see the same things, experience the same things, (foods, drinks, fashion, make-up) simultaneously.

secondly - you're older now, so you don't get it. and as the article says, the kids don't want you to 'get' it/them.

[*Bob*]

What's that you say? Kids these days? Eh? (Raises trumpet to ear)

[Earl Aelfheah]

"People don't seem to want to express themselves with their clothes any more,"... Really?

Sounds to me like the author is just harking after 'the good old days', much as his old man did before him.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Another analysis of contemporary youth culture: http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/mar/20/youth-subcultures-where-have-they-gone

[Parkdrive]

I find myself telling my sons, both in their early 20's, they look ridiculous much in the same way my later father told me I looked ridiculous before I trotted off out thinking I looked the dogs gonads. Nothing wrong with Youth Culture, just us getting older.

[Fabricio the Guido]

What's all this obsession with yoots?

[*Bob*]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> "People don't seem to want to express themselves

> with their clothes any more,"... Really?

> Sounds to me like the author is just harking after

> 'the good old days', much as his old man did

> before him.

Agree with this and PD. The very act of putting pen to paper on such a subject is game over, Grandad.

I suppose underneath the dressing it's just an excuse for a bit of good old-fashioned nostalgia. Quite sweet, really.

[El Pibe]

well we *did* look ridiculous when we were younger, the point being as long as it aided our chances of getting Greta Appleton into bed because she thought that ridiclous look was cool then it makes sense.

[Parkdrive]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> well we *did* look ridiculous when we were

> younger, the point being as long as it aided our

> chances of getting Greta Appleton into bed because

> she thought that ridiclous look was cool then it

> makes sense.

And there lies the whole point of looking ridiculous

[*Bob*]

I looked really cool.

[*Bob*]

Sorry - just checked a photo.

I looked like a complete penis - just like everyone else.

[????]

"The latest is, of course, the lambasted "hipster", which isn't a style tribe at all but simply a catch-all moniker for a generation of bearded men who like coffee and are happy to follow, and not buck, trends. Sheep is a far superior appellation"

What's not to love?

[Earl Aelfheah]

There is nothing wrong with sporting a beard.

[????]

Are you a coffee fan Rah?

[El Pibe]

"and a deeply depressing one that people are too worried about their futures in the current financial climate to be creative."

That seems rather back to front to me, traditionally times of hardship and difficulty were associated with explosions of creativity.

For want of any research or deep thought into the matter i'd posit that it's hard to counter culture when the prevailing culture is one of liberalism and tolerance; one where your parents and teachers have probably done as much drugs as you ever will.

One might even argue that grumbling about immigration and voting ukip is the real countercultural act of rebellion today ;)

[miga]

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[????]

Added to which - music, with a few exceptios, most genres nowadys are so deriviative plus even the youths themselves largely seem in awe of the older stuff....at the heart of this article as an EG

"No beatles, stones in 1977" or whatever the Clash sang( someone pull out the actual lyric).....howeever false that position was, it was a position.

My headmaster had fought in Italy and was pertrified of Punk, I can have long conversations about the Damned with my 18 year old nephew!

PS I have abeard Rah, which is sort of the point...

[miga]

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[*Bob*]

Rebellion is often seen as the mark of youth. I don't think this is quite true. The mark of youth is to disappoint and consternate the older generation by not doing what they're supposed to do.

Rebellion may have been the tool of choice once, but it's a bit old hat now, because that's what their parents did.

Where are their rebellious spirits and tribal affiliations, their attempts to be different, like wot we did? Bloody kids!

Oh yeah.. job done.

[MrBen]

*Bob* Wrote:

---------------------------------------------------The very act of putting pen to paper on such a subject is game over,Grandad.

Writing about someone writing about it also.

Quids = grandad

[MrBen]

Next up he'll be threatening to "box my ears you cheeky young scamp" and shaking a fist.

[red devil]

'ave iiiiitt!!!!

[Brendan]

I looked cool as a youth. So much so that I still dress exactly the same to this day.

Look a tit now.